feeling shitty on pct

Interesting that you guys find no appetite suppression inspite the product being specifically designed to suppress appetite. I think the majority will still experience the appetite suppression, like myself for example.

Ye most people seemed to experience appetite suppression and a load of other sides. I felt little more than the effects of 200mg of caffeine.
Just shows how differently we all react

Agreed with rhino. I get shitty sides such as acne, but that's any product that contains tribulis and long folio jack, they all give me bad break outs. It's an effect fat burner but i think there are better combos for burning fat such as clen and yohimbine combination. That being said from the studies done by the doc there is decent muscle building properties from it so with the smooth comes the rough. Every thing has a positive and a negative and getting some product that has 0 adverse side effects is called un-attain-abol

DJ wrote: Agreed with rhino. I get shitty sides such as acne, but that's any product that contains tribulis and long folio jack, they all give me bad break outs. It's an effect fat burner but i think there are better combos for burning fat such as clen and yohimbine combination. That being said from the studies done by the doc there is decent muscle building properties from it so with the smooth comes the rough. Every thing has a positive and a negative and getting some product that has 0 adverse side effects is called un-attain-abol

now u got me thinking ever get red hives that contain blood and water only when u scratch open ...on the chect /stomache....I am know thinking 3F and or tribulis which I used before cycle but thought it was from the cycle ....

The acne is from the tribulis and that is easy to explain as DJ already did.

FFF is not a true appetite suppressant like Duromine for example, but it works by making you feel fuller whenever you eat carbs, so when on FFF you should eat your carbs first every meal. It also works best when on Keto diets. The increased appetite is due to the stimulation of your metabolism.

I think people are misunderstanding 3F a bit. 3F is not actually an appetite suppressant. It gives one earlier satiaty for carbs, but stimulates the intake of prot and fat. That is why it works best with the ketogenic type of diets. If on 3F, one should start eating carbs first in your meal - you will quickly feel "full" and then will eat less of the rest of the plate of food - that way one eats less in volume. It does not work like Duro, which suppresses appetite in the whole.

The other goodies in 3F are all pushing metabolism at higher rate - so yes, you will feel hungry on it. But if your diet has more prot and fat in it, you will have less hunger and will do better.

One should not actually expect great appetite suppressing effects on 3F, as the suppressing effects initially are only due to one eating a bit more fat content food ratio-wise, as well as the herbals do have some suppressing effect - the latter wears off within about 4 weeks. When the fat ratio in food intake is increased, you can go longer between meals - maybe some people can misinterpret this as appetite suppressor effects. Remember that in some individuals it will drive appetite in order to feed the larger more metabolic-active muscle mass.

Hope this explains some of the questions raised....

Interesting info there Admin. Somewhat bizarre is that I am on keto and it still kills my hunger.

Pyroclasm wrote: Interesting info there Admin. Somewhat bizarre is that I am on keto and it still kills my hunger.

Yes bud, that is your keto diet working and the 3F is just taking the appetite suppression a step higher.

I'm pretty sure that any fat burner that stimulates the sympathetic nervous system reduces appetite so that means pretty much all of the ones we take. It's an instinctive response to increased nor/adrenaline activity and the bodies instinctive flight-flight response.

What is FFF gents ?

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