About hCG

hCG is a dimer consisting of a 145 amino acid beta-subunit that is unique to hCG and a 92 amino acid alpha-subunit. The alpha-subunit is identical to that for luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), and thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH).

( emedicine.medscape.com/article/2089158-overview )

Does this mean that aside from stimulating Test production, it also stimulates sperm & thyroid production.

Yes.

Cool!!

Kinda like the Thyroid effect :woohoo:

I have been on hcg my whole cycle this time, and I feel it has definitely also helped with maintaining volume and preventing atrophy.
I will never do a cycle without it again!

I am worried about this line:

"If hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland."

Found on this forum HERE

Could anyone help me understand what would be considered as "too long and in too high a dose"

Thank you,

eatClen wrote: I am worried about this line:

"If hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland."

Found on this forum HERE

Could anyone help me understand what would be considered as "too long and in too high a dose"

Thank you,

Well, provided you follow the advice from reputable members on this site - you will be fine

That being said, this thread is a good example of what would be too much: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...lbs-program?start=25

I read somewhere clomid or nolvadex can be used in place of hcg on cycle would you guys agree with this?

lobo wrote: I read somewhere clomid or nolvadex can be used in place of hcg on cycle would you guys agree with this?

Nope

K cool thanks pump saw it on t nation just wanted to check if it had any merit to improve my understanding as pyro mentioned in the piana thread seems to be quiet a few skewed views around regarding anabolics.

Nolva can replace an AI but I wouldn't advise it. 12 weeks of Nolva during cycle and then using it pre PCT and PCT.. But this is old school methods.

Hi Pump.

But those Nolva dosages were dose dependent right?

Shot for the advice pump I will stick to adex worked well this cycle.

Not sure if this is common knowledge or a kak story, saw it the other day for anyone having trouble breaking their adex tabs one can apparently crush a 1mg tab and put it in a ml of vodka which dissolves and preserves the adex leaving the filler then use a dropper and some maths to get a lower dose.

does PGW supply hcg?

saflyfish wrote: does PGW supply hcg?

No, they don't. The HCG I got is from Enhanced Peptides, I believe it is pretty good.

no one in Durban seems to know much about hcg...thats a problem

PsyCLown wrote:

saflyfish wrote: does PGW supply hcg?

No, they don't. The HCG I got is from Enhanced Peptides, I believe it is pretty good.

I thought PGW closed down?

eatClen wrote: I thought PGW closed down?

No man, whoever told you that just did it so that you would buy his crappy brand instead.

saflyfish wrote: no one in Durban seems to know much about hcg...thats a problem

Ask them for Pregnyl. Most of those geniuses know the name but no idea what's inside it.

you are indeed very helpful sir

got hold of a local guy whom is "respected" in the game and he tells me hcg is a form of insulin and VERY DANGEROUS to take! Wtf!

saflyfish wrote: got hold of a local guy whom is "respected" in the game and he tells me hcg is a form of insulin and VERY DANGEROUS to take! Wtf!

then he can't be that 'respected' in the game...

thats what i thought as well...im at my wits end trying to find reliable people in Durban

If the idiot you spoke to has access to a well renowned lab making HCG then get it from him regardless of how "dangerous" he thinks it is. Then use it like we tell you to use it and everything will be fine haha. I can't believe people don't know what they put into their bodies when internet is such an easy research tool!

which renowned labs supply it?

saflyfish wrote: which renowned labs supply it?

Many, rather get the brand your supplier has and we'll tell you if it's good or not.