PCT questions.

First question is regarding the waiting period after the last shot, 3 x the half life period seems an awful lot when one has been running trt dosages of test e (50mg E3D). I'm assuming the 3 x rule is just a good general estimate for guys who run enanthate estered compounds at the 500-750mg ranges? Is the point here not to allow test levels to drop back down within physiological ranges - specifically the individuals pre cycle ranges, so that the individuals HPTA no longer sees the circulating test levels as supraphysiological and thus the system will now be sensitive and receptive to FSH and LH stimulation and thus the drugs will actually be effective.

In the case of running 50mg test e e3d, would starting PCT 5 to 7 days not make more sense?

My second question is about the 20mg ED aromasin dosage in the PCT #3...it seems really high for controlling E2 from 500iu hcg EOD....I am concerned about crashing E2 at that dossge.. I found on 50mg test e e3d and 250iu HCG e3d, 6.25mg e3d of aromasin to be perfect, and I felt that I only needed this after around the 10 week mark, as I had stopped using 50mg proviron, libido had slowly started dipping...started the 6.25mg aromasin and libido went straight back up again.

DKSA wrote: First question is regarding the waiting period after the last shot, 3 x the half life period seems an awful lot when one has been running trt dosages of test e (50mg E3D). I'm assuming the 3 x rule is just a good general estimate for guys who run enanthate estered compounds at the 500-750mg ranges? Is the point here not to allow test levels to drop back down within physiological ranges - specifically the individuals pre cycle ranges, so that the individuals HPTA no longer sees the circulating test levels as supraphysiological and thus the system will now be sensitive and receptive to FSH and LH stimulation and thus the drugs will actually be effective.

In the case of running 50mg test e e3d, would starting PCT 5 to 7 days not make more sense?

My second question is about the 20mg ED aromasin dosage in the PCT #3...it seems really high for controlling E2 from 500iu hcg EOD....I am concerned about crashing E2 at that dossge.. I found on 50mg test e e3d and 250iu HCG e3d, 6.25mg e3d of aromasin to be perfect, and I felt that I only needed this after around the 10 week mark, as I had stopped using 50mg proviron, libido had slowly started dipping...started the 6.25mg aromasin and libido went straight back up again.

That PCT was put together by a smart Dr with lots of data. I have had great success and was able to have my daughter from the protocol. The aromasin is not there to control E2 from HCG it is there to help recovery. I am on a PCT with Arimidex and HCG by my endocrinologist.. He isn't using the Arimidex for E2 even though he is to a degree but for recovery..

The waiting period can be shorter. Just start it around that time, but extend it a few weeks if you have been on long term TRT. My endo said I need 3 months for full recovery after being on TRT year round. But I'm due for bloods now to see what I look like at the end of month two.. So I guess it's really down to bloods and you really want to be on the top end of the scale when you test as it will dip when you stop PCT.

00pump wrote:

DKSA wrote: First question is regarding the waiting period after the last shot, 3 x the half life period seems an awful lot when one has been running trt dosages of test e (50mg E3D). I'm assuming the 3 x rule is just a good general estimate for guys who run enanthate estered compounds at the 500-750mg ranges? Is the point here not to allow test levels to drop back down within physiological ranges - specifically the individuals pre cycle ranges, so that the individuals HPTA no longer sees the circulating test levels as supraphysiological and thus the system will now be sensitive and receptive to FSH and LH stimulation and thus the drugs will actually be effective.

In the case of running 50mg test e e3d, would starting PCT 5 to 7 days not make more sense?

My second question is about the 20mg ED aromasin dosage in the PCT #3...it seems really high for controlling E2 from 500iu hcg EOD....I am concerned about crashing E2 at that dossge.. I found on 50mg test e e3d and 250iu HCG e3d, 6.25mg e3d of aromasin to be perfect, and I felt that I only needed this after around the 10 week mark, as I had stopped using 50mg proviron, libido had slowly started dipping...started the 6.25mg aromasin and libido went straight back up again.

That PCT was put together by a smart Dr with lots of data. I have had great success and was able to have my daughter from the protocol. The aromasin is not there to control E2 from HCG it is there to help recovery. I am on a PCT with Arimidex and HCG by my endocrinologist.. He isn't using the Arimidex for E2 even though he is to a degree but for recovery..

The waiting period can be shorter. Just start it around that time, but extend it a few weeks if you have been on long term TRT. My endo said I need 3 months for full recovery after being on TRT year round. But I'm due for bloods now to see what I look like at the end of month two.. So I guess it's really down to bloods and you really want to be on the top end of the scale when you test as it will dip when you stop PCT.

Thanks pump. Gosh I wish we had (or that i knew of) a clued up doc on trt here in PE.
We have one endo only...he is one of those "i don't care if you are symptomatic, your test levels are sTilL iN rAnGe (300+- on multiple tests at 30 and having not touched gear since 25)"

I am on day 7 of 20mg nolva, 20mg aromasin ED and 500iu hcg eod and I am definitely experiencing "crashing" E2 symptoms..
I cant understand how possibly 20mg of aromasin daily is not going to crash my E2?