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23 Dec 2009 15:14 #31792 by AJAY
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hi

some advice from the MORE EXPERIENCED please....

I will be finishing my first cycle of superbol pro anabolic on xmas day, my questions:
1. i have got Kessar PCT . . do i start it the day after last tablet

2. its 30 tabs (kessar 20 - 20mg)so 1 per day?

3. when culd i start with either
a. another oral? like dbolx OR
b. something like TEST?

Thanks anyone

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23 Dec 2009 15:19 #31793 by SNOK1986
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ur cycle + pct is the time u have off, than u can start again.

So if ur cycle was 10 weeks and ur pct was 4 weeks - wud be 14 weeks off than start another corse. :)

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Dec 2009 15:21 #31794 by SNOK1986
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Do kesser for 7 days with 2 pills daily than finish the rest with 1 pill daily until finshed.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Dec 2009 15:23 #31795 by AJAY
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ok . . so my cycle was 4 weeks on superbol finishing the 25th Dec, then i start my kessar the day after i finish last superbol tab 26th Dec . . so thats 8 weeks off from the last kesser tab ie start kessar 25th Dec so from 25th Jan do i wait 8 weeks :( b4 i start ANY other product . . . ? oral or injectable ?

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23 Dec 2009 15:28 #31796 by SNOK1986
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Well i suppose u cud start an injectable now like if u like and go for 10 weeks with test at 400 - 500mg a week. Than save the kesser for ur PCT at the end of the 10/12 weeks.

But i wud start on the 25th of december dont leave it coz ur test levels will be dropping the longer u off. So now is the time champ.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Dec 2009 15:39 #31797 by AJAY
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COOL thanks for info SNOK . . . i will start the kessar sat . . if i may ask why 2 tabes he first week then 1 per week thereafter?

well if i do the pct (kessar now because of being on the superbol) then i can maybe start TEST when? 4 weeks break after kessar or wold it be the full 7 weeks (ie 4 weeks on superbol followed by 3 weeks kessar) thus can only start TEST 7 weeks after last kessar? or have i got it all wrong? sorry man

i will also only be able to order the TEST in the new year.

or WHEN would u suggest i start TEST in the new year if i finish Kessar mid Jan?

Thanks dude

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23 Dec 2009 15:57 #31798 by SNOK1986
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The reason i think i may be wrong is coz the time u finish ur corse those 7 days after ur corse is vital that is were ur test levels drop drastically from being on test to no test ur body goes WTF? So not to get estrogen probs u need to have that tamoxifen in ur body to help u out. than u taper down to one pill. Will help u to keep ur gains as well.
Im probably heluva wrong but thats what normally happens well at least what i follow.

I wud do 5 - 7 weeks off after last pill of kesser. Than start ur test only corse of 400 - 500mg for 10/12 weeks maybe throw dbol in for the first 4 weeks up to u.
PCT with this i wud do pregnyl and kesser, some people say just kesser for a test cycle but i wud play it safe do pregnyl and kesser.

Lakka
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23 Dec 2009 16:15 #31799 by AJAY
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COOL . . yr view sounds logical so i think i will follow the 2 a day for the first week then down to one . . as well as wait the 5-7 weeks b4 i do test. . . . mmmm rather nervous to do TEST as never done injectibles and not sure about doing it myself . . .

with 10/12 week cycle on test hoe many times do u inject a week? what does the dbol (is that dianabol) do for the 1st 4 weeks?

with the PCT what is the pregnyl do?
thanks Pal

u have been EXTREMELY helpful . . appreciate it dude :-)

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23 Dec 2009 16:56 #31801 by SNOK1986
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I would use test enanthate, 400mg - 500mg a week, do 2 injections a week monday and thursday.

front loading dianabol will be good to kick off the test in ur body, shoots it up quick since enanthate is a slow acting test.

Pregnyl or HCG - this used to regain natural test levels, because once u start using test and the longer u on test ur body stops producing its own natural test therefore taking pregnyl or HCG (they the same thing btw) will help u regain ur own natural test levels so u dont go into the horrid crash that alot of people go into and lose all their hard earned muscle.

But i suggest in this time that u r in ur post cycle and off time, read thru this forum or google learn the basics coz these r some of the basics im telling u now.
Look thru the sample cycles to see diff cycles and pct.
AND DIET IS NUMBER ONE - how cud i forget get that sorted out as well.

Lakka

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23 Dec 2009 17:55 #31807 by BB_guy
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Most guys are nervous when it comes to the first injection so dont stress.After the first few it only can get better :) You will love test compared to prohormones, im sure!!!

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23 Dec 2009 19:06 #31814 by ABC01
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Dont worry about it! Had my 1st injection monday. Had sleapless night leading up to it. Wont feel a thing, shit you not! I was so impressed almost took another dose :laugh:

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23 Dec 2009 20:06 #31817 by SNOK1986
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Yeah u will be fine just make sure u read up how to inject and injection sites... recently tiny posted a brilliant post on how to inject and precautions www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...injection-pain#31816

Doesnt really tell u how to inject but good to read, just google site injections for steroids.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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24 Dec 2009 09:28 #31836 by Andre511
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Hey Ajay, what was your gains like?

"You are born weak, and you die weak. But how you look in between, is up to you."

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24 Dec 2009 11:53 #31844 by AJAY
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THANKS AGAIN FOR YR INPUT . . . .that is exactly what i have been doing this past week . . reading all the links possible on this site . .also googling about injecting etc . . i have been doing my research work as well . . .

i am well aware of th ediet thing . . . i have a diet that i follow from my trainer . . and if i must say so myself i am pretty dedicated to it . . .

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24 Dec 2009 11:57 #31845 by AJAY
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hey andre511 . . i take it you are refering to gains on the superbol?

if so . . to be honest 3 weeks on it i didnt have much gain in my body weight or muscle mass, but i was pushing heavier . . measurements up on arm, chest etc . . and seem to tone a lot more as well . . but i dont think i got the gains i was hoping for, so maybe the TEST next year will help . . if i decide to go that way

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24 Dec 2009 12:31 #31847 by Andre511
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Test is Best! :rock

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26 Dec 2009 22:15 #31926 by AJAY
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thanks . . . how many times have u used it? what was yr gains like on the first cycle when u used? did u use dianabol the first 4 weeks ? and what PCT did u use? if i may ask waht are yr stats? age, height weight bodyfat etc etc

did u inject 2 times a week and what place did u find easiest and least painful to inject

sorry for all da questions

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27 Dec 2009 07:34 #31937 by Andre511
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Test I have used twice, first was depotrone but thanx to a horrific diet the gains wasn't great (that's what happens when you don't do your homework and take advise from people that don't know shit), second was again depotrone and equipoise made some nice gains but still the diet wasn't up to standard (so be sure to get the right diet from the DJ man himself!)
Dbol is a great way to go to kickstart your cycle, will bloat you a bit but nothing to worry about.
For PCT I would recommend you go through doctari's PCT protocol and the one that MxT wrote...
Glutes are painless, haven't done quads yet

Hope that helps

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