gyno- pubertal

hi all
this is my 1st post here and i was hoping that u could help me with some questions i have.

i have never used AAS before however i am planning to do so shortly

i do however have some gyno which i believe is from puberty. there arent any glands or lumps behind the nipples, just a very fatty chest with puffy nipples that looks like boobs. its not bad when its cold as the skin pulls tight but terrible when the weather is warm. i believe my bodyfat is around 17% so am not sure if this is gyno or just fat which i believe is termed pseudo gynecomastia.

i managed to get my hands on 15ml letro which is in liquid form (pink liquid) and is 5mg. see below how i am using it in hope to tighten up. after i will do a course of kessar to prevent estrogen rebound. i am currently on day 3


Letro Day 1 AM 10 Drops - 1 MG PM 10 Drops - 1 MG
Day 2 AM 10 Drops - 1 MG PM 10 Drops - 1 MG
Day 3 AM 10 Drops - 1 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 4 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 5 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 6 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 7 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 8 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 9 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG
Day 10 AM 15 Drops - 1.5 MG PM 10 Drops - 1 MG
Day 11 AM 10 Drops - 1 MG PM 10 Drops - 1 MG
Day 12 AM 5 Drops - 0.5 MG PM 5 Drops - 0.5 MG


Nolva Day 1 AM Half a tab - 10 MG PM Half a tab - 10 MG
Day 2 AM Half a tab - 10 MG PM Half a tab - 10 MG
Day 3 AM One Tab 20 MG PM One Tab 20 MG
Day 4 AM One Tab 20 MG PM One Tab 20 MG
Day 5 AM One Tab 20 MG PM One Tab 20 MG
Day 6 AM One Tab 20 MG PM One Tab 20 MG
Day 7 AM One Tab 20 MG PM One Tab 20 MG
Day 8 AM Half a tab - 10 MG PM Half a tab - 10 MG
Day 9 AM Half a tab - 10 MG PM Half a tab - 10 MG
Day 10 AM Half a tab - 10 MG PM Half a tab - 10 MG

is this the best way to use. i hear that ur sex drive has supposed to be dead from using letro however nothing has happened to me and i am on day 3

also the company i work for does drug tests annually thats why i am waiting to start with either test cypionate or testoviron. will they however be able to pick up letro and nolva in my urine. are these classed as banned substances.

the guy that i obtained the letro and nolva is very knowledgable and i respect his opinion however i always like to get a few opinions

thanks in advance

I've tried reversing gyno with Letro and it doesn't work. You get nasty sides man. I was so dry I couldn't bend my back. I would advise you to lose a lot of weight before attempting that cycle of yours. Try and get to 10% BF or lower.

what sort of sides did u get and how much were you using

Most of the side effects: Fatigue, nausea, constipation, diarrhea, headache, drowsiness or dizziness, vision problems and joints being as dry as can be. Couldn't walk or run properly. And of course zero sex drive. Still struggling with my libido three months after I discontinued use. Dosage was 2.5mg/day

thats scary man. im on day 3 three. do u rekon i should stop. i am only going to be using it for 12 days but dont want to do it if its not gonna make any difference. plus i paid R900 for the letro and nolva(30tabs x 20mg).

but if i stop now what will happen, will the estrogen come back harder and possibly make the gyno worse. this is confusing for me

12 days are a wast anyway. Takes about 2 weeks for it to kick in. So yes I would suggest you stop. After 3 days I doubt it would cause estrogen rebound. Try and lose weight first. That would be your main goal. If you are 17% BF chances are you won't notice gyno till it's too late when you do your cycle.

hmm, doubt you going to reverse puberty gyno with letro or even Nolva... I have yet to speak to 1 person that has cured any type of gyno 100% without surgery. They say my gyno is getting smaller, 6 months later, I ask how is your gyno doing, well its smaller but not gone... So I think is it really smaller or is it just all in their mind.

Certainly the best success in fighting gyno is catching it as it appears. Old gyno is very hard to fight. I would suggest you make your primary goal losing weight, then see how much gyno is left when you are lean. You have to lose weight anyway before you do your cycle or you will get fatter. But it seems like you have done some research and probably know that already.

Hey guys. I have sort of the same problem. Im 18 now and have puffy nipples from puberty. There's no lumps etc and my bodyfat is about 13%. But now a new problem has arrised. Since yesterday my right nipple began to itch and it hasn't stopped since. Im not using AAS so I dont know whats going on.
Any help?

You taking any natural test boosters?

Best advice here is to get medical advice from a professional and stay away from AAS completely.

No. No test boosters. Im realy scared of getting realy gyno now.

Go to your doc bud, sooner than later.

As Netro said, go check a doc maybe nothing to worry about how old are you? sometime puberty gyno takes well into your 20's to clear up, good rule, lose as much fat as you can if you have any as thats most of the time what its from.

Gyno is not something to 'worry about' like the whole world is coming to an end, its some tissue that can get cut out. Why its better to see a doc incase it is malignant.. be safe..

Thanks for the replies guys.
@pump-
Im 18 with about 13% bodyfat. Would like to be 9-10%.

ye, you still young dude, most of the time, weight training and a good diet clears all puberty gyno, just get a doc to check out man.. then the guys here can help you with diet / training, etc.

Just to add the 1 and only experience i had with a doc at the time
My first cycle, before I knew of message boards, was 2mls Depotrone and 1ml (200mg/ml) Denkal Deca a week. At some stage had a bit of lactation and a small hard mass. Went to Doc, showed the liquid from nipple and he felt hard mass. His advice "it will get better on its own" and that was that.
I was ignorant enough to just leave it like that.

My point is to push your doc to get something done ASAP.

just some feedback. i have finished 10 days on the letro and believe it or not, the gyno actually looks about 50-60% better. whether that is from my hard dieting or the letro , i will never know. but for the 1st time i can actually say, i have pecs and not boobs. i have started the kessar at 20mg/day . will go up to 40mg and taper down to 20mg again before completing. overall, i would like to think my little experient worked to some degree and while i agree that gyno cant be removed altogether from letro, i believ that it certainly does help in reducing its appearance.

just on a side note. is kessar harmful to your kidneys. i have had a blood test done and my kidney function is poor with elavated creatinine and urea levels. i have been asked to see a dietician who recommends i east 80g protein a day. for a 104kg guy, i know thats bare minimal but have to and will do it until my next blood test to see if there is an improvement. i am using the kessar to obviously prevent e rebound from the letro. is it not going to harm my kidney

Hope you drinking enough water? Letro will never clear gyno up 100%, maybe 50% still I don't believe it was the letro, more to do with lower bodyfat, remeber once that gland is there you going to have gyno issues for the rest of your life. everytime you look at gear you going to get gyno.