gyno

geneticfreak60
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14 Jul 2008 15:08 #4979 by geneticfreak60

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I am on week 3 of a cycle of 600mg test week 1-12 and I kickstarted it with 25mg dbol ed (took last dbol yesterday) for the last 2 days my left nipple has been damn sore it feels kinda like it is brused(hard to explain)could this be gyno?

I have been taking 10mg kessar a day for the whole cycle I have bumped it up to 40mg

What schould I do , I did a 8week sust(500mg) and deca(399mg) and dbol(25mb for first 3 weeks) cycle in jan and for that I also did 10mg nolva(kessar) ed
during the whole cycle and pct of hcg and clomid and I had no problems at all?

please help me any advice is much appreciated

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geneticfreak60
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14 Jul 2008 15:10 #4980 by geneticfreak60

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It hase been a cutting cylce I am dieting very strict with low carbs and I am 81kg with 12% bf
if any of this helps? the test is 2ml nomaviron a week 1ml on sunday 1ml on wednesday

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admin
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14 Jul 2008 15:36 #4981 by admin

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Give it a few days on 40mg Kessar... if it doesn't improve in 5 days get some a-Dex or Letro.

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Netro
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14 Jul 2008 15:54 #4982 by Netro

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Is it inflamed and standing out more than the other?

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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geneticfreak60
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14 Jul 2008 19:55 #4984 by geneticfreak60

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Netro wrote:

Is it inflamed and standing out more than the other?

No it looks the same as always just hurts, I do have a slight case of puffyness that I deveoped as a overweight kid at round 12-14 years of age but since I have goten lean it hasent realy been a problem.

and I had no problems on my previous cycle could just the extra 100mg test make such a big diff?

I can get a-dex tomoro but would like to avoid it because I already have nolva but this is not something I want to play with?

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geneticfreak60
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17 Jul 2008 08:57 #5010 by geneticfreak60

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I have gotten a-dex I did 1mg a day for the day before yesterday and yesterday, most of the pain is gone but it is still a bit sensitive, today and tomorow I will do 0.5mg and there after I will run the a-dex at 0.5mg eod,

Is it safe to continue my cycle or myst I stop it all together? I have also replaced the d-bol with t-bol to try clear from the androgens

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Netro
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17 Jul 2008 10:30 #5011 by Netro

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It might even be the D-Bol aromatizing, will run A-Dex till completely gone and then just when needed. The swap to T-Bol will let you see if it is the D-Bol that's and issue.

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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geneticfreak60
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17 Jul 2008 15:05 #5017 by geneticfreak60

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Netro wrote:

It might even be the D-Bol aromatizing, will run A-Dex till completely gone and then just when needed. The swap to T-Bol will let you see if it is the D-Bol that's and issue.

so I can go on with my cycle? or must I stop all anabolics antill it clears I just want to know because im ment to inject my test e tonight?

and is 0.5mg adex eod a good dose or do i need more

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Netro
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17 Jul 2008 15:32 #5018 by Netro

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A-Dex dose is fine as maintenance, you can always up it if you feel the .5 is not doing it's job. To continue is up to you and see no harm if you can control the gyno.

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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geneticfreak60
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18 Jul 2008 08:20 #5023 by geneticfreak60

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does testE have allot more oestrogen related sides then sust because more then half of sust is fast acting esters? does that notmake sust a cleaner form of test?

just wondering because sust and dbol gave me no problems on my previous cycle

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Netro
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18 Jul 2008 09:02 #5026 by Netro

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% of test that you can use in a blend is allot less than on a single ester, the more esters you add the more weight there is and less base compound to use. Have a look at admins post around the 7 ester blend, he goes into nice detail.

Test e will give you 72mg per 100mg of test, not sure on sus, but will be allot less test and thus much higher levels in your blood. Maybe try and lower your weekly dose or if you injecting 2 x p/w swop to 1 x p/w.

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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Novice!
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03 Aug 2008 13:16 #5246 by Novice!

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Howzit guys,
I developed a lump under my left nipple, its not sensitive at all and looks identical to my right one, ie no puffyness or swelling. and are not lactating yet.
would kessar take care of this completely? and at wat dosage a day?

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Netro
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03 Aug 2008 16:52 #5247 by Netro

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What does or did your cycle consist of? You can try Kessar at 10mg p/d and see if that helps, if not go to 20mg p/d

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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Novice!
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03 Aug 2008 17:05 #5248 by Novice!

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It was Nomad Depo, 500mg p/w and nomad dianabol 20 - 30mg p/w, didn't get any results but got left with this irritating lump.
I had one in the opposite nipple last year from a similar cycle and i only took clomid afterwards and it disappearred about a month after the coarse.

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admin
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04 Aug 2008 13:12 #5260 by admin

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Try to get some Letro... I love the stuff, it's the only thing that have given me good results concerning my own gyno. It does cause some joint pain issues and sex drive problems, but that is a small price to pay, considering that the only other real cure for gyno is the expensive surgery.

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Novice!
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04 Aug 2008 18:30 #5267 by Novice!

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ok cool will look into it.
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Novice!
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17 Aug 2008 19:19 #5399 by Novice!

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This lump has still not gone yet ive been running 10mg kessar p/d, i've upped to 20mg p/d and if i don't see any results ill go to 40mg p/d, is it a bad idea to go on another cycle even with this lump or should i wait till its completely gone?

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geneticfreak60
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20 Aug 2008 14:09 #5435 by geneticfreak60

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I ran Kessar at 40mg per week and it didnt help nothing after 2 days on a-dex I felt better after a week the gyno was gone

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jo1
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22 Aug 2008 15:18 #5464 by jo1

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i will never use nolva again, only adex or letro!!

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admin
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22 Aug 2008 15:41 #5466 by admin

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Agree with jo1 on this; Tamoxifen is pretty useless to combat gyno and in some cases where 19-nor compounds are used it will accelerate your gyno.

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iceT
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10 Sep 2008 18:46 #6004 by iceT

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Hmmm so Letro is the stuff to get then. I have a question can you use it during a bulking cycle say midway to keep gyno at bay or is it strictly for use during PCT? Was wondering i have existing gyno from a few months back. Is it over the counter at the nearest pharmacy?

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Netro
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10 Sep 2008 19:34 #6006 by Netro

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Kessar is a great compound and depending on the type of gyno and the individual it will either have a great success rate or none at all. You can use it during a bulking cycle, but again, not with 19-Nors, rather use arimidex or parlodel. It is schedule meds and prescription needed.

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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