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Im still just battling slightly with a few things & please bare with me as i know you guys are sick of the topic, but i just really want to get my ducks in a row before i start.
i will be doing 500mg cyp (& 3omg d-bol) a week which puts me at the basic level of admin's suggested pct.
i am 100% clear & comfortable with the clomid and nolva. I just seek clarity on the hcg issue. its been left out of the basic pct level. is this because at my proposed dosage of test i wont be as severely shut down? or is there another reason why the hcg has been omitted? would running it at 250iux2 weekly while ON cyle be overkill? I have asked this before in one of my previous threads but have got nothing conclusive yet.
secondly, there have been many suggestions to keep an ai like letro on hand should gyno begin to raise its ugly head, but what can be prescribed to take as a prventative measure? I would prefer to be proactive rather than reactive in this regard?
I would like to follow admin's suggested basic level pct to the letter as it makes sense, but could you guys please just offer me your inputs regarding the hcg & ai issues.
thank you so much.
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Only use Letro once you notice gyno symptoms.
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Then again why block estrogen from the get go when you may not get gyno at all?
Sorry dont meant to complicate the issue, just really wanna avoid the gyno..
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Fox wrote: could you run adex during as a preventative, or would it be better to wait for symptoms then use the letro. I understand that you want some estrogen around to maximize gains, thus making the weaker adex a good choice during cycle.
Then again why block estrogen from the get go when you may not get gyno at all?
Sorry dont meant to complicate the issue, just really wanna avoid the gyno..
Sure, a low dose of adex is just fine. Prevention is better than the cure, however letrozole is overkill.
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Just one thing tho - what (in your opinion) is 'a low dose' of adex to run while on cycle?
Also would it not be wise to run the hcg while ON cycle as well rather than incorporate it into pct? I would assume that all round recovery would be quicker if from say week 2 of the cycle one began administering the hcg and keep the testes from atrophy rather than letting it happen and then 3 months later try and get them operational again?
So instead of starting it in day 8 of pct @ 500iu (when by this time your nuts are probably the size of raisins), could one not run it during last 10weeks of cycle @ 250iu x 2 per week?
Thus, when pct does start, its just the clomid & nolva and generally a faster recovery?
Please let me know if im barking up the wrong tree?
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HOWEVER.... considering the relatively low shut down on this cycle this will in all probability not be necessary. If you where adding deca to this then yes by all means run the hcg. Allot of this you will have to figure out as everyone reacts differently.
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Have some karma for your trouble
Last thing and then i think im sorted as far as my pct goes.
With regards to hcg - is it better to do sub -q or im?
What I gather from instructions is to either do (a)intramuscular injections @ about 5000iu per week for two weeks (at the end of cycle), OR (b)sub-dermal injections @ about 500iu (or up to 1000iu) per day for 10 days.
Does this imply that sub-q injections come on faster but also that their effects don't remain active as long?
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I am not sure about the IM HCG administration. Use sub q, belly area, slin pin.
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@ admin - not sure...
I think its just nerves going into my 1st coarse making me over think things. Just want everything to turn out okay!
I guess i just dont want to leave any stone unturned.
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