what must i use

Ronnyclowsman
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13 Dec 2011 22:23 #85434 by Ronnyclowsman

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Iv looked at the sample pct's and am not sure what one to use. I used Trenbolin 80mg/ml 2ml a week and Testosterone Enathate 300mg/ml 1ml a week. i was on this cycle for 5 weeks. the last injection i had was 14 days ago and i know i must start using a pct verry soon or i am screwed. So if you could please help me out with a good pct Ill realy apreciate it. Thank you

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00pump
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13 Dec 2011 22:56 #85435 by 00pump

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That isn't classified a cycle and why 5 weeks of test e

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jakes
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14 Dec 2011 07:10 #85436 by jakes

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That isn't even a cycle lol. The test basically just kicked in when you stopped. You better start doing you research. I already told you, pct number 3.

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crawler
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14 Dec 2011 07:31 #85437 by crawler

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I hope you did not go that short due to money as a decent pct is going to cost you as well

go with nr 3

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STUARTF
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14 Dec 2011 08:52 #85441 by STUARTF

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Ronnyclowsman wrote: Iv looked at the sample pct's and am not sure what one to use. I used Trenbolin 80mg/ml 2ml a week and Testosterone Enathate 300mg/ml 1ml a week. i was on this cycle for 5 weeks. the last injection i had was 14 days ago and i know i must start using a pct verry soon or i am screwed. So if you could please help me out with a good pct Ill realy apreciate it. Thank you

That cycle is cooked, you really should have run it for at least 12 weeks. Try extend it if you can. Tren is highly supressive so you would need a full clomid/Nolva/HCG PCT with some aromasin if budget allows.

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Etwa
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14 Dec 2011 09:36 #85445 by Etwa

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not only do i agree with the comments above, remember to include PCT as part of your cycle planning bud! get your stuff all at once and dont scramble after cycle to get your pct, this is just poor planning.

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VonD
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14 Dec 2011 10:23 #85455 by VonD

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have to agree with Etwa.

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Ronnyclowsman
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14 Dec 2011 18:18 #85522 by Ronnyclowsman

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thanks guys for the help and a freind told me i must just run it for 5 weeks, i guess i should of done more reshearch myself

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jakes
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14 Dec 2011 18:30 #85523 by jakes

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Go blxm your friend, tell him he's a clown and unfriend him on facebook lol

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Etwa
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15 Dec 2011 10:12 #85547 by Etwa

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jakes wrote: Go blxm your friend, tell him he's a clown and unfriend him on facebook lol

There should be a "kick your ass next time i see you" button on FB for cases like this!

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Ronnyclowsman
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17 Dec 2011 15:44 #85702 by Ronnyclowsman

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how long can you go without using a pct because i can only maybe get the stuff in 3 weeks time and by then it would mean that i took the last shot 5 weeks ago, is that safe?

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00pump
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17 Dec 2011 15:50 #85705 by 00pump

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Better then than not doing it, and hopefully its the last time you make this mistake... Get natural test boosters until it comes and start them now to help sustain gains

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jakes
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17 Dec 2011 16:30 #85710 by jakes

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Natural test boosters don't work. If you buy anything that involves "testosterone" over the counter you can moer it away... Pro hormones, yes.

If someone has cash to waste sometime have bloods done, use the test booster and have bloods done again. There will be no difference.

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00pump
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17 Dec 2011 22:55 #85735 by 00pump

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Jakes, prohormones are suppressive so it isn't an option. And test boosters don't work beyond a baseline test of X.. But if you shutdown from a cycle it has been proven to be effective to a point... I also find after a heavy PCT my test levels are on the high side but libido is still low, Tribulus helps increasing my Libido... So does animal stack to a point, but that also contains tribulus.

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jakes
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18 Dec 2011 07:57 #85737 by jakes

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I have not found one independent study that proves that tribulus works. I swallowed the shit like sweets before I started using steroids lol

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00pump
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18 Dec 2011 09:53 #85741 by 00pump

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You get articles by professors saying steroids don't build muscle

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jakes
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18 Dec 2011 10:21 #85743 by jakes

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Yes, that is because between the 60's and 90's there was limited information about anabolics. Doctors did tests where they gave patients steroids (without patients following a training or eating plan) when the patients showed no increase in muscle mass they came up with that conclusion. Today they know better and most doctors will agree that it does increase muscle mass.

I dislike test boosters for the impossible claims the companies marketing them make (some advertise a 27% plus boost in testosterone levels - and some even more ) which is complete bullshit...

Maybe when someone can prove it to me with a bloodtest ill believe it

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00pump
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18 Dec 2011 16:53 #85749 by 00pump

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I agree they a waste of cash...

However AAS can promote cell growth without training

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jakes
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18 Dec 2011 17:03 - 18 Dec 2011 17:04 #85752 by jakes

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Yes, I agree it can and it does but its minimal without training (not to mention diet)... I don't know what the dosages administered were but if they were in the 250mg to 300mg region I can think that the subjects gained no weight.

I'd just like to see one independent study that proves or supports claims that natural testosterone boosters work

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00pump
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18 Dec 2011 17:09 - 18 Dec 2011 17:13 #85753 by 00pump

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I'm always willing to be a trial bunny... After my primo cycle next year ill do the bloods, and then take the top natural test boosters, will get readings 2 months after PCT then test boosters then will use for 1.5 months and then do bloods and let's see... That will put the end to the dispute, as I'm also in two minds about its effectiveness, but I do believe age will play a big role and under 28 is a waste to use them

Anyway back on topic

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jakes
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18 Dec 2011 17:18 #85756 by jakes

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That would be really interesting bud, then we can settle this matter once and for all. I don't know how the stuff is supposed to work. They just claim it boosts natural test levels but don't really explain "how".

If you do it the animal test booster will probably be the best one to try (given that its just tribulus and not some pro hormone or designer steroid they have in there, I know the brand VPX contains some of that shit...)

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potand
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08 Jan 2012 13:33 #87199 by potand

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Guys im batling to get hcg but what i read and understand its basicly the same as pregnyl should i just get prygnyl then and why does it look lile the pcts have more sides than the roids itself

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IronHeart
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08 Jan 2012 13:55 #87202 by IronHeart

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Pregnyl is hcg!
Dude well if you want to use roids you have to use pct.

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