UPA labs

00pump wrote: Ok...

lol, my reaction as well... we've seen this million times before...

00pump wrote: Ok...

1. I've been training for a full year and 2 months already.

2. I do sort of follow a diet plan, my main goal has always been to gain weight, so I eat around 4 to 6 meals a day, every day ever since the first day of training. I've gained 4kg naturally since my whole training experience so far.

3. My length is around 178cm and 180cm, I weigh 60 kg, I'm 19 years old and I'm not really sure about my body fat percentage.

4. Well my first reason, first off all is I didn't really know if I would really get the gear that I ordered, so I wanted to find out if I could trust their services. I also wanted to start off at a mild anabolic steroid cycle, because I don't wanna get into side effects at my first experience. For my expectations, I was hoping to get an oral that can increase my motivation in gym, performance wise

00pump wrote: Ok...

What would be the best manufacturer to you guys, please name the top 5

Stavey wrote:

00pump wrote: Ok...

What would be the best manufacturer to you guys, please name the top 5

The problem is not with the manufacturer of your Dianabol, it's with what you are doing and also your mindset.

You have to forget about the steroids and focus on sorting out your diet and training. Sort of following a diet is not good enough and at 19 you don't even need steroids for the level you are currently at. You are very light for your height and without seeing your diet I can tell you with absolute certainty that it's not good enough.

We have fantastic posts on dieting and training and that is where you should focus:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-dieting-contest-preparation
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/8-training

Unless you have the genetics and want to compete, don't start steroids so young. Your leydig cells have not even fully developed and you will run into issues years down the line when you can't workout why your testosterone is always low. Right now your body is as anabolic as it comes, follow the links admin posted.

Stavey, listen to good advice from admin. You are still young and have no clue what you're doing. At your age you haven't even begone to discover your own potential and you owe it to yourself to do that first before you even think about gear boeta. Do your due diligence, realise what you're getting yourself into. Don't screw yourself up before the start of your prime.

Alright guys, I hear you there, you make a good point. Thing is I've been finding it hard to having the same motivation that I had when I first started training. But it's cool though, no hard feelings I'll try out your advice and maintain with it for a while.

If you don't have a goal that you can visualize, whether it be health, wanting the best body you can create, look good for girls, who knows what that goal is for you, if you don't have one you pissing in the wind.

I've used their NPP and EQ and Test E. No probs. Also using their Proviron at the mo. It's supposed to be 25mg a tab. It doesn't make me as anxious and irritable as the LP Proviron which is a 20mg tab. Does that mean it's under dosed? No idea. But injectables were good.

Used their test when PGW had supply issues.
I get regular(ish) blood work, everything was the same or close to as it was with PGW so seems ok.
Havent tried their orals as LP is my go to brand and there always has been stock

For what it's worth. I have used UPA MAST E, TEST E, Tren E, Proviron, Winstrol, Anavar, Arimidex and Nolvadex and the Nolva is absolute horseshit. All the other products did what it was supposed to but the Nolva was worthless. The arimidex on the other hand worked like magic. I can vouch for SORN.

Side note, I don't know what carrier oils they are using but I think they use a lot of solvents. I have been getting inflammation, break outs and other issues on their Test E, which I haven't experienced on other brands.

Very curious as to how you know the Nolva didn't work? I have not tried it but I'd like to know how knew it wasn't working? What did you use it for?

I didn't do labs, so this is purely anecdotal. I was using it to get rid of itchy nipples (gyno growth). I have used Nolvadex for this in the past and usually the gyno goes away and I drop some water retention after 3 days. UPA is the only brand where I didn't notice ANY change to water retention, itchy nipples persisted etc regardless of the dosage.

TheTrain wrote: I didn't do labs, so this is purely anecdotal. I was using it to get rid of itchy nipples (gyno growth). I have used Nolvadex for this in the past and usually the gyno goes away and I drop some water retention after 3 days. UPA is the only brand where I didn't notice ANY change to water retention, itchy nipples persisted etc regardless of the dosage.

Gyno growth left untreated, will become stubborn on same doses on anti-estrogen meds. You may have to up the dosage, or drop you anabolics dose.

And your water retention can be a whole lot of other issues. Diet, rest, water, etc

Don’t blame the product/brand there’s too many aspects for your problem. Find the root cause.

I do adjust the dosage as needed and after 3 years of anabolics usage have not developed gyno because I am very cognisant of it. I pick my compounds to avoid gyno as well. Hence I haven't touched dbol in 2 years. I am very gyno prone though and get flare ups.

My diet is consistent and portions are controlled. Water retention fluctuation was definitely due to hormonal changes. I have managed estrogen related side effects multiple times with Nolva, but with UPA there was no effect regardless of the dose. I even upped it to 80mg just to see if there was any effect and there was none.

I am not bashing UPA, as I used most of their products to great effect... except the Nolva.

@Stavey, not sure if anyone told you but a dianabol only cycle is terrible especially for a first time. Also with no knowledge of steroids and it being your first cycle wouldn’t equipt you to make a judgement of the brand.