Ciccone vs HDLabs

donkiekong wrote: Going to be trying out 10ml of HD labs tren ace and masteron , not sure what will happen as i will switch from pgw to HD

That is a downgrade in my opinion, but if you have vast xp with different brands then good luck

Oupa wrote:

donkiekong wrote: Going to be trying out 10ml of HD labs tren ace and masteron , not sure what will happen as i will switch from pgw to HD

That is a downgrade in my opinion, but if you have wast xp with different brands then good luck

Definitely, every mother fucker I know thinks if they change brands perhaps they'll get bigger
Bull shit
Wanna be bigger quicker Slin or synthol, you'll still look worse then an asshole
Fucken work for it
Excuse my french
Steroids, trusted... Food.... Repeat

Plus karma young man Oup's

donkiekong wrote: Going to be trying out 10ml of HD labs tren ace and masteron , not sure what will happen as i will switch from pgw to HD

You always seem to be looking for the "magic brand" that doesn't exist, always brand hopping and thinking one is better than the other. You'll get more out of your cycles if you put more effort into the important things like training and diet.

I dont have the cash to throw away thats why in use other brands or brand hopping , own experience is better then taking anyone's word for it , you all can say HD or ciccone or what ever lab is shit but i want to make my own judgement not taking anyones word for it anymore

donkiekong wrote: I dont have the cash to throw away thats why in use other brands or brand hopping , own experience is better then taking anyone's word for it , you all can say HD or ciccone or what ever lab is shit but i want to make my own judgement not taking anyones word for it anymore

Sure you can do what you want and it's ok to experiment with different brands if you need to see for yourself how they perform. But I see you going from one brand to the next and I'm getting the impression that you are focusing too much on the brand and no so much on the more important things mentioned earlier. That's just my observation and I'm not running you down at all, it's just something I've noticed. I also don't care what brand you use, it makes no difference to anyone other than yourself, but don't let a name on a label influence you so much.

Thank you admin i get what you say yes i just want value for hard earned cash as im no rich man

Value for money in my opinion.

Precision Gear Works.
Ciccone Pharma.

And in that order.

receiving my second batch the weekend and opted for HBlabs so by next month when I start this cycle i'll be able to give you my review and opinion on the two

1st batch Ciccone Testabolin, Winstrol 10mg tabs

2nd batch HDlabs Equiject 200 Boldenone & Propioject Testosterone Propionate 100mg

3rd batch will be HDLabs Tren E as I'm keen to test and compare to ciccone tren E

got the HDLabs at the same price as the ciccone, havent tried PGW yet though

I have tested 3 labs my self , i would say

PGW
HD labs
Pharmacom
Ciccone

Thats my order

just a question guys. with all the different ratings being given here.

what criteria is your ratings based on?
are there any blood tests or testing of the compounds involved?

surely we can't rate/judge something just by the way it makes us feel or the rate of muscle packed on.
are there not too many variables for this?
we can never guarantee that every workout is the same, every piece of meat we eat is of the same quality, every jab is done with the same bio-availability, storage of goodies in the same temperature, each batch is of same quality etc... i can probably go on and on with this but i'm sure everyone gets where i'm coming from

tweaked wrote: got the HDLabs at the same price as the ciccone, havent tried PGW yet though

No Price discussions.

Hoosain wrote: just a question guys. with all the different ratings being given here.

what criteria is your ratings based on?
are there any blood tests or testing of the compounds involved?

surely we can't rate/judge something just by the way it makes us feel or the rate of muscle packed on.
are there not too many variables for this?
we can never guarantee that every workout is the same, every piece of meat we eat is of the same quality, every jab is done with the same bio-availability, storage of goodies in the same temperature, each batch is of same quality etc... i can probably go on and on with this but i'm sure everyone gets where i'm coming from

Yes, other than a full chemical analysis it is impossible to judge a product's effectiveness accurately and reliably. Obviously when something is 100% fake or grossly under-dosed it will be more obvious after a few weeks, but even then it's not reliable to blame the product unless other experienced users experience the exact same lack of results. It's a very dodgy topic and there are always guys that make false claims to promote or discredit a specific brand or they are just clueless.

I just received an email from someone an hour ago that needed brand advice because his Danabol DS were "fake", so I asked him why he thought it was fake and this is an excerpt from his reply: "Dosage was 3 blue hearts per day for 2weeks. Expected feeling was something like clen when i took... experienced shivers and and blurness." As you can see, people don't know what they are doing, but are quick to blame a product. This is no coincidence, because I receive similar emails multiple times per week.

aaahh thanks for the reply admin.
i guess that's the reason we have the review section on the forum as well. user feedback where we can see common trends and weed out the underdosed/fakes

also explains why you are so strict in the review section.

thanks to the rest of the guys as well. keep the discussion going, i love all the experienced guys giving knowledge

Hoosain wrote: just a question guys. with all the different ratings being given here.

what criteria is your ratings based on?
are there any blood tests or testing of the compounds involved?

surely we can't rate/judge something just by the way it makes us feel or the rate of muscle packed on.
are there not too many variables for this?
we can never guarantee that every workout is the same, every piece of meat we eat is of the same quality, every jab is done with the same bio-availability, storage of goodies in the same temperature, each batch is of same quality etc... i can probably go on and on with this but i'm sure everyone gets where i'm coming from

I like this... You completely correct.

I would definitely not put ciccone as last. Their hgh platinum plus is much better than hd labs gh

I know one shouldn't judge gear based on sides, I have recently switched from ciccone plat plus to hd labs hgh that feeling in my hands and wrists is more noticeable now and I'm still tired as fuck so I'm not so sure plat plus is that much Better if sides are anything to go by, suppose time will tell.

lobo wrote: I know one shouldn't judge gear based on sides, I have recently switched from ciccone plat plus to hd labs hgh that feeling in my hands and wrists is more noticeable now and I'm still tired as fuck so I'm not so sure plat plus is that much Better if sides are anything to go by, suppose time will tell.

Inflammation, carpal tunnel syndrome
GH...
So common with GH
Being tired will pass

Hoosain wrote: aaahh thanks for the reply admin.
i guess that's the reason we have the review section on the forum as well. user feedback where we can see common trends and weed out the underdosed/fakes

also explains why you are so strict in the review section.

thanks to the rest of the guys as well. keep the discussion going, i love all the experienced guys giving knowledge

Hey guys - just wanted to support this reply...

Good to have access to a resource like this - to keep abreast of what's happening out there... Been a hermit for a while now - and well out of action... So yeah trying to climb back on the horse in the right way.

It's realy tiring having to weed out all the crap - but has to be done!

And hey @FIllet - agree with ya re:

FIllet wrote:

Oupa wrote: Fucken work for it
Excuse my french
Steroids, trusted... Food.... Repeat

So so true!

Hope you all have a great weekend!