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Furk wrote: Jono, I think the seniors are just being wary and cautious. There's been blatant shilling on the forums in the past. Another factor is the negative image Ciccone has been garnering as of late. I'm talking about the aggressive marketing and the "school boy's" post. So it kind of makes sense that the controlling authority of this site doesn't want that attitude promoted here
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Oupa wrote: Still waiting for your other product and brand links on this forum.
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Oupa wrote: Still waiting for your other product and brand links on this forum.
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Hormonas wrote:
Oupa wrote: Still waiting for your other product and brand links on this forum.
And requests for photos of products that are badly reviewed
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00pump wrote: We just would like to see the same thing for other labs. Clearly if you are getting these pics from your supplier and information, can you share some of the other labs photos and information too.
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00pump wrote: We just would like to see the same thing for other labs. Clearly if you are getting these pics from your supplier and information, can you share some of the other labs photos and information too.
Well admin updates us on PGW and LP. Someone else updated me at least on HD mixes in another thread. My guy only gets Ciccone,keifei and alpha Pharma. If he sends me something from another lab I won't share it anyway because then I'll probably get shit for it too. RB got the same stuff I just beat him to it on the forum.
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Furk wrote: OMG you guys are being children. Give it a rest. If Jono proves to be pushing Ciccone, cross that bridge when you get there. Everything is public here, we can collectively flame him he deserves it. But he hasn't given any reason to believe he has a hidden agenda since he was called out. In fact he's made a good point about PGW.
When I joined here I was suspicious about everyone being so pro LP and PGW. While other places were pro nomad and Axio. But guess what, the guys here could get it and thus compare it! Not everyone I spoke to could source the good stuff, so they never tried it. It's threads like Oupa's review thread that shows there's honest opinion out there across the brands.
I mean one of the reasons I value this place is because my peer members are living in the same country. There's only a handful of us and a shit-tonne of international sites. Let's maybe make use of each other's experiences?
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00pump wrote:
Furk wrote: OMG you guys are being children. Give it a rest. If Jono proves to be pushing Ciccone, cross that bridge when you get there. Everything is public here, we can collectively flame him he deserves it. But he hasn't given any reason to believe he has a hidden agenda since he was called out. In fact he's made a good point about PGW.
When I joined here I was suspicious about everyone being so pro LP and PGW. While other places were pro nomad and Axio. But guess what, the guys here could get it and thus compare it! Not everyone I spoke to could source the good stuff, so they never tried it. It's threads like Oupa's review thread that shows there's honest opinion out there across the brands.
I mean one of the reasons I value this place is because my peer members are living in the same country. There's only a handful of us and a shit-tonne of international sites. Let's maybe make use of each other's experiences?
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And it's not your job to make these calls, it is ours, and until the playing field has been evened out, e.g. enough posts and pics with other labs, we will have our eye on him.
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Furk wrote: OMG you guys are being children. Give it a rest. If Jono proves to be pushing Ciccone, cross that bridge when you get there. Everything is public here, we can collectively flame him he deserves it. But he hasn't given any reason to believe he has a hidden agenda since he was called out. In fact he's made a good point about PGW.
When I joined here I was suspicious about everyone being so pro LP and PGW. While other places were pro nomad and Axio. But guess what, the guys here could get it and thus compare it! Not everyone I spoke to could source the good stuff, so they never tried it. It's threads like Oupa's review thread that shows there's honest opinion out there across the brands.
I mean one of the reasons I value this place is because my peer members are living in the same country. There's only a handful of us and a shit-tonne of international sites. Let's maybe make use of each other's experiences?
Peace out cub scouts.
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Jono77 wrote: Okay let's just put this to bed, I'm not pushing anything, if I get Ciccone updates I will post them here,if I get keifei or alpha updates I will post them in their own respective threads. Finish and kla, fucken hell
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Oupa wrote: Kannie vir n fok glo ek lees wat jy se nie Furk. Swak !
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Empire wrote: I don't mean to rock the boat here admin, but with the way ciccone sends out these multiple broadcast messages to everyone regarding the steroid activities going on in the south African market, I would be inclined to say that anyone can push ciccone these days.
As much as these updates can be incredibly useful they are also incredibly propaganda driven. Not every steroid user in the whole of sa needs to know the inner workings of the industry such as who is involved in which brand and what goes on. All it does is creates a bigger case file for each brand if something goes wrong as the ciccone guys are not very discreet about naming and shaming people affiliated to other brands other than ciccone.
There is also alot of feuding going on between ciccone and axio owners that is best left between them. Not everyone needs to know the dirty laundry going on between them. As much as certain updates are probably pretty useful to have, just as many are just full of marketing.
Gone are the days where people didn't need to know the inner workings of who is involved with what. And gone are the days of just producing good quality products for the consumer without causing a turf war between brands.
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Empire wrote: I don't mean to rock the boat here admin, but with the way ciccone sends out these multiple broadcast messages to everyone regarding the steroid activities going on in the south African market, I would be inclined to say that anyone can push ciccone these days.
As much as these updates can be incredibly useful they are also incredibly propaganda driven. Not every steroid user in the whole of sa needs to know the inner workings of the industry such as who is involved in which brand and what goes on. All it does is creates a bigger case file for each brand if something goes wrong as the ciccone guys are not very discreet about naming and shaming people affiliated to other brands other than ciccone.
There is also alot of feuding going on between ciccone and axio owners that is best left between them. Not everyone needs to know the dirty laundry going on between them. As much as certain updates are probably pretty useful to have, just as many are just full of marketing.
Gone are the days where people didn't need to know the inner workings of who is involved with what. And gone are the days of just producing good quality products for the consumer without causing a turf war between brands.
Yeah, you're right. Even though I have absolutely no interest in these political games and smear campaigns, I will not allow Ciccone's little minions to disrupt and corrupt the forum with their crap. I've been following certain members' posts awhile now and acted very tolerantly until now, but you know the signs as well as I do and it's obvious that this is no longer innocent product announcements.
I have absolutely nothing against product announcements from brands I don't support personally, but I will not allow any person or group from hi-jacking my website. I'll ban every last one of them no matter how important they think they are.
I'm very much biased toward LP and PGW and I've never made a secret of that, but the forum is neutral and I'll get rid of anyone that abuses this platform. I've done this countless times before, so it's not a problem for me to take action again. I pay for the bandwidth of this site and I offer an ad-free website where steroid and body-building related matters can be discussed anonymously, but it's still under my control and under my rules. The kids these days are manipulated from early on to think the world owes them something, so they think they have the same privileges I have and they should think again. They are nothing but guests here using a FREE service I provide them under my rules.
Steroid users should wake up and realize that they are promoting the Mafia-like behaviour of these labs by supporting them and following them blindly like sheep. Instead they should turn against labs that act like drug labs and support those that really care about the sport. That's probably too much to ask, but at least that is how it will work here.
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Empire wrote: I am very much in agreement with this policy to be honest. But unfortunately there are quite a few labs that have this gangster mentality and hopefully it calms down otherwise it will land all involved in hot water.
The beef doesn't end at the top level unfortunately. I have seen the runners get into massive turf wars where they have come to blows over guys supplying customers and this filters up to the top. It is sad that there are probably 100s of small time steroid busts that we never hear about due to it getting sorted out, but I can bet my bottom dollar that alot of the busts are from guys ratting each other out.
Every brand have their sheep, that we have seen. And I don't think, with the way that these guys are actually marketing things, it is going to change.I think it is stupid the way that these guys are handing out t-shirts, doing social media marketing to sponsoring athletes, it just makes the nail stand out further to be hammered.
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Jono77 wrote:
Personally I would only buy PGW oils and LP orals because I do believe they are the best from others experience,I haven't tried them but fuck why does a guy get so much flack for informing a steroid forum full of guys who use and buy steroids about new steroids on the market?
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Oupa wrote:
Jono77 wrote:
Personally I would only buy PGW oils and LP orals because I do believe they are the best from others experience,I haven't tried them but fuck why does a guy get so much flack for informing a steroid forum full of guys who use and buy steroids about new steroids on the market?
Kak man, gaan lees jou ander posts en vat jou pakkie kak soos n man. Die fancy pussy foot gatkruip houding gaan jou nerens in die lewe bring nie.
As jy dink Ciccone is befok, dan se jy so, dan weet ons almal. Maar jou kak manier om product te push, en dan lieg jy soos n fokken Zuma boetie, dit irriteer mens.
Anyway, ek is n ou aap, en dra my eie ketting, so dis genoeg van my kant af.
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