UPA

Hi guys, want some info about UPA test prop 100. Was currently running pgw prop 100 and had amazing results. Switched to UPA and feel like it’s lagging to compared to the PGW. Anybody else experience something similar or is just my mind ? How well can we trust UPA, currently running 2ml x 3times a week. Libido is also lower after switching to UPA. What is the best brands currently on the market ?

i am a big fan of UPA products, i use their products with all my athletes and currently using their products for my current show prep. always gain good strength, and lean muscle.

how long ago did you switch from pgw to upa?

my question is why are you such a high dose of test, 600mg a week is quite large and probably un needed, what could be happening is the conversion to estrogen is higher which could be causing issues. and yes, prop still convert to estrogen. You will probably find you will get better results if you drop your dosing down to 3mg per kg, and make up the balance with another anabolic such as masteron prop. so if you are 100kgs, 300mg prop a week and 300mg masteron prop a week will kick the living hell out of just using 600mg test prop a week, and if you want to get even more fancy, you can split the other 300mg of prop between NPP and Masteron Prop.

Hulk54 wrote: Hi guys, want some info about UPA test prop 100. Was currently running pgw prop 100 and had amazing results. Switched to UPA and feel like it’s lagging to compared to the PGW. Anybody else experience something similar or is just my mind ? How well can we trust UPA, currently running 2ml x 3times a week. Libido is also lower after switching to UPA. What is the best brands currently on the market ?

I have absolutely no reason to distrust PGW.

I switched from
500mg PGW Test E
to 300mg UPA.

I feel much better on the UPA, less inflammation on subq injection.
Many factors could explain the fact 300mg UPA feels like 500-600 PGW, in essence I am just saying I trust their product, and have no complaints.

Happy all around, I trust their Test E, will try NPP next.

would you recommend upa over pgw ?

@MPhilospher..What factors explains the hypothesis that 300mg of UPA equates to or "feels like" 500/600mg of PGW ?

Pompeii wrote: would you recommend upa over pgw ?

yes

Lex wrote: @MPhilospher..What factors explains the hypothesis that 300mg of UPA equates to or "feels like" 500/600mg of PGW ?

sadly from what I have heard over the last couple of years, PGW has had stock issues, late manufacturing, and constant supply chain problems.

what could have happened is under-dosing products to stretch raws, using new raw material suppliers that are producing API that is sub-par. Many factors.

Lex wrote: @MPhilospher..What factors explains the hypothesis that 300mg of UPA equates to or "feels like" 500/600mg of PGW ?

I am not shitting on any brand.

I have used Pharmaceutical Test (Pfizer depo)
PGW Test E/C
UPA Test E

UPA test E injected very cleanly, no lumps even subq - PGW did cause a worse lump especially test E.
Having used pharma 300mg, UPA gives me the exact same feeling.

Again, not shitting on PGW, I just seem to prefer UPA. (PGW out of business anyway?)

I'm using the UPA injectable carnatine ATM and this is some gooood stuff

I have used almost all UPA's injectables. No issues thus far. Efficacy based on bloodwork and results speak for themselves. I have never used their orals though. I'll stick to tried and tested LP.

I do miss PGW, might be all in my head but their products hit hard and was just a cut above the rest at one stage.

I'll be sticking to UPA for the foreseeable future.

Sorry to hijack this thread but I've been wondering why I'm not getting the usual side effects from UPA test e that I'd get with other brands? For eg. Bad shoulder, chest and face acne and water retention/moonface. I don't seem to have any of that with (1st time running deca) and currently in week 3. Don't seem to notice any significant joint pain relief that people speak 's your thoughts?

Because it usually takes time for drugs to work.

It's like pushing an elevator. If it is on the 15th floor and you are on ground, no matter how many times, or how hard you push the button, the elevator takes time to get ground floor..

ALSO basing the effectiveness of gear based on side effects isn't a good way of basing a gear is working.. acne may take time due to the conversion to other hormones that increase oil secretion causing acne.

Also water accumulation in the joints can take up to 6-8 weeks to accumulate and its also dose dependant.

I have personally used UPA a couple of times, before i only used HD lab and Precision gear works. Just my personal experience with UPA made me aggressive,  emotional and all kind of funny emotions. Not cool, never again.

Your post did not pass the smell test.

I have personally used UPA a couple of times, before i only used HD lab and Precision gear works. Just my personal experience with UPA made me aggressive,  emotional and all kind of funny emotions. Not cool, never again.

And let me guess tren was the upa compound in question?

Nope, just plain old Test E.