tren and test sufficient?

Can just a trenbolene and test cycle of 6 - 8 weeks gain good results?

How could winny be stacked on this cycle?

Ive read alot on tren on the forums but still want more info

thanks

First the guys will need your stats, age, height, BF%, years training etc.

24

weight - 80

b/f - 19 %

years training - 4

Ran a sus,deca,anabol,winny 12 week course last year and another one with higher dosages this year.

also ran clen and T3 in between

My body is real stubborn when it comes to losing fat.

I tightened up my diet and it did help as well as added more cardio, its working but very very slow

Need to check my B/F again

Are you thinking of short or long esters? ie test prop/Enanthate, tren ace/enanthate..

Short esters would do nicely for 6-8weeks but the longer ones would just be kicking in.

Not sure novice which one to use really, first time using tren.

Maybe il use the short ones, dont wana be on it too long

Any advice would be appreciated

Oh and i checked my B/F yesterday, its 17%

19% was the reading I got a while back

Juicy if u are going to do a 6week cycle then i suggest running tren acetate and test prop.I'd go for 1ml of each every other day or ideally 0.5ml of each every day to keep your blood levels constant.

U can add in an oral winstrol or injectable for that matter at 50mg/1ml eod if injecting it or 25mg/0.5ml every day if u are doing the every day injection route.If u are going to be using orals instead i would run orals at 50mg everyday for the last 4weeks of your cycle,i find that my joints dry up too much if i run winstrol for a full 6weeks but only slightly at 4weeks at the higher dose. If u are looking to loose a bit more body fat swap the winstrol for anavar and an eca fat burner to give u optimum results.As anavar is known to eat away at abdominal fat stores...

Your pct on this cycle is vital as tren causes heavy shut down so u will need to use pregnyl from about week 3 of your cycle going on to week 9.The reason i say use pregnyl through the cycle is so that the recovery is quicker and your gonads won't suffer.Doctari posted a good pct post a couple months back explaining this... After the injections have been finished 50mg of clomid for 5days and once thats done move on to letrozole for 3-4weeks at0.5mg a day.

If u need a proper diet u can mail me but i do charge for diets but they do work,muscle-up,copperband,skyth,classic1 can all vouch for that,cuan will be able to vouch for this soon as well as well as jackson.

much appreciated dj!! yoh! valuable info thanks! Im gon mail you for that diet plan asap!!

thanks alot dude!

ummmm dj ... whats your mail add bro? :laugh:

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Any idea of what gains can be expected from a test/tren cycle over 8 weeks?
In Kg's...