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This is for me the most important question for SARMs. Right now we shouldn't be worried as much about vision sides or other side effects and how much will I gain etc... Yes these are all valid things about which to ponder, but the most important is its effect on HPTA.
Early usage seems to show SARMs as moderately effective, reports I've read compare it to a good anavar response or a mediocre test prop response.
Vision side effects may hamper year round usage...
But most importantly not enough people have used this drug and done bloods. Only one or two reports out there on the showing bloods. Once more guys have done stand alones for this drug with blood work and determined how minimal shut down is, and then used them in PCT and determined how it effects recovery, once these things are done we will have a more clear niche for SARMs.
Only if it effects HPTA significantly with extended usage should the experimenter begin playing with a 2 week 2 week idea.. (You don't use test suspension two weeks on two weeks off do you).
Agree here.
Couple of things I've read say that there is some effect on free test, but minimal effect on total test
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I'm more interested in knowing the side-effects as that will be the main reason people use it. Results should be similar to testosterone. Besides HGH is not very muscle building anyway, so it's effects will be minimal.
8 IU of quality HGH will deffinately show you muscle building effects ive seen mad results on 4 IU of humatrope with metoformin instead of insulin. But if you are going to do this as a proper test you should do sarms on its own and do bloodwork so we finally know what exactly is going on with the HPTA. What actually causes this yellow vision? This is no a mild side effect guys no one has come to say what is the reason for this there could be some chemical reaction in the brain causing this which could be serious. But hey the more guys do it and post i guess we will know better. If this stuff was legit how come supplement companies are not massing production. Im not trying to step on anyones toes but some solid info would be good to hear.
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Couple of things I've read say that there is some effect on free test, but minimal effect on total test
This is all based from one monkey who got free test tested, and the clinical trial for which we still haven't seen actual data, and until actual data is shown we cannot take what they say word for word...
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8 IU of quality HGH will deffinately show you muscle building effects ive seen mad results on 4 IU of humatrope with metoformin instead of insulin. But if you are going to do this as a proper test you should do sarms on its own and do bloodwork so we finally know what exactly is going on with the HPTA. What actually causes this yellow vision? This is no a mild side effect guys no one has come to say what is the reason for this there could be some chemical reaction in the brain causing this which could be serious. But hey the more guys do it and post i guess we will know better. If this stuff was legit how come supplement companies are not massing production. Im not trying to step on anyones toes but some solid info would be good to hear.
Well dude this is the problem. The drug has only just gone through phase II clinical trial. So what that means is that any scientific study that will finally show what is causing the vision sides is still years away. And any information linking this to serious side effects is still even more years away... So if you take SARMs you run this one risk.
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I'm more interested in knowing the side-effects as that will be the main reason people use it. Results should be similar to testosterone. Besides HGH is not very muscle building anyway, so it's effects will be minimal.
8 IU of quality HGH will deffinately show you muscle building effects ive seen mad results on 4 IU of humatrope with metoformin instead of insulin. But if you are going to do this as a proper test you should do sarms on its own and do bloodwork so we finally know what exactly is going on with the HPTA. What actually causes this yellow vision? This is no a mild side effect guys no one has come to say what is the reason for this there could be some chemical reaction in the brain causing this which could be serious. But hey the more guys do it and post i guess we will know better. If this stuff was legit how come supplement companies are not massing production. Im not trying to step on anyones toes but some solid info would be good to hear.
8iu will show muscle building I agree, but only after months of usage... I'm only doing 8iu for 2 months and that is minimal... fat loss should be more apparent though. Most pro's use 32iu or more per day.
I'm not doing the test so I can report properly to anyone, I'm doing it to see what results I get and if there are severe side-effects on myself. I will rather sponsor someone that have never touched steroids to use it and get blood work done as most of us won't react in the same way after years of steroid use.
Supplement companies wont use it as the chemical is patented and they are not allowed to distribute it as it's not been FDA approved.
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People had the same concerns when IGF was first released into the public and honestly I think that it can be more harmful as it has been shown to affect cancer cells directly.
The only side-effect I've noticed so far is increased aggression... similar to what I get on Tren.
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Oh, I forgot to mention that the SARMs we are talking about is not the first of its kind... in other words this is not a first generation chemical and it was already used by all top athletes in the last Olympics. Don't ask how I know this, but I have my sources...
People had the same concerns when IGF was first released into the public and honestly I think that it can be more harmful as it has been shown to affect cancer cells directly.
The only side-effect I've noticed so far is increased aggression... similar to what I get on Tren.
I was under the impression they don't use SARM's at all as it wouldn't have any effect what so ever on their growth on comparison to gear and all the other goodies they take? Read that in a Muscle mag.
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Cool, please keep everyone updated on your progress and sides...Getting mine on Thursday...
Are you doing bloods?
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Cool, please keep everyone updated on your progress and sides...Getting mine on Thursday...
Are you doing bloods?
No bloodwork. I am doing S4 as part of a course later (with bloodwork)... initially I am just taking it to see if there are any nasty personal reactions. Not using for longer than a month now...
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How long more will you be running it?
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I browse these forums often but never posted b4.
Any way ive been using MGE S4 for 2weeks now 50mg ed split into 2 doses mon - fri weekends off.
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Are you only using 50mg a day, (25mg twice a day)?
Do you open the capsule and take half of the powder out?
I would really like to hear if you get anabolic effects out of this dose...
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