QDR5?... pic uploaded.

Will someone please email me the retail price per vial of the QDR5?

Howzit admin. I sent an email so just confirm that you got it. Sweet.

jakes wrote: I'm not convinced that running 2 19nor substances will shut you down harder than one. I think it comes down to the dose you use...

jakes wrote: I'm not convinced that running 2 19nor substances will shut you down harder than one. I think it comes down to the dose you use... Libido should still be fine if your running at least 1.5times as much test.

As for the products being under dosed you may be right. I can't really comment on that

Agreed in my case I once tried running running npp with tren,totally shut me down but I was only running 750mg test,300mg npp and 240mg tren.

Apparently we all are getting old and struggle to remember things. Old thread -> www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/6-stero...axio-hybrid-steroids

Edit: check this one, EQC5Hundred 200mg Test Cyp + 100mg Tren Ena + 200mg Bold Unde per ml. Oh boy! A few ml's of that would make a lovely cycle

Well, Syntrop states the following:

Bioactive formulations, an entirely novel process for the presentation of medicinal products, are at the origin of a new generation of these extremely promising drugs.


The present invention provides new formulations with potent anabolic activity, minimal antiglucocorticoid activity and improved solubility.


I'm not a chemist, so can't comment on the truth behind these claims. They seem to say they can stuff more active ingredient into the solution.

Yes so it seems,do u not think if this was possible pfiser would make their nebido into 1ml not 1000mg in 4mls.so one of the biggest pharmacutical giants in the world can't achieve what an underground lab can...please take the wool from over your eyes and pull it off... U cannot change science,saturation point will be met long before 5000mg is reached in that 10mls....hence the reason this shit should be called un-attain-abol.

I think this stuff is worth a try, does anyone here have access to Syntrop products?

Edit -@dj, pharmaceutical companies produce steroids for TRT, why would they need a 500mg per ml product anyway? Plus they can't market stuff that causes injection pain.
If someone could only get a vial of the stuff and run 2mls a week for 5 we will know if it works or not.

Edit2 -Look at it this way - steroid manufactures make money by selling steroids to regular users not by scamming someone once. They rely on people building up a trust in the brand and buying the same product again. If the stuff was shit people in the gyms wouldn't be raving about it and the rumors would have died out long ago because of bad publicity by unsatisfied clients. Or am I wrong? That's just how I see it.

Anyway I'm off to bed, have fun boys...

Bud u are not getting the point,its not physically possible to make this product, solvents would be sky high to keep it from crashing even if that's the case there is not enough oil left after the solvents to mix the stuff with hence the crippling pain. If it was possible pharma companies wouldve done higher dosed products ages ago such as nebido to save every one from a 4ml jab and give them a 1ml jab. Try it yourself,I have 0 faith in it. Even precision and many other guys who know more about pharmacuticals than u and I combined have commented saying why its not possible...its a plan and simple scientific fact called saturation point.

DJ wrote: Yes so it seems,do u not think if this was possible pfiser would make their nebido into 1ml not 1000mg in 4mls.so one of the biggest pharmacutical giants in the world can't achieve what an underground lab can...please take the wool from over your eyes and pull it off... U cannot change science,saturation point will be met long before 5000mg is reached in that 10mls....hence the reason this shit should be called un-attain-abol.

Dude, you obviously missed my scepticism - I just posted what was stated on their website. A quick google reveals they stole the first sentence from here:

www2.cnrs.fr/en/1043.htm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

But as Jakes pointed out, therapeutic doses used by pharma giants are generally much lower than what is required in the bb scene, and they obviously also try to minimise injection pain, so I wouldn't rule out that perhaps a superior technology exists.

Yes but to shoot 4mls into 1 area isn't the greatest idea. Yes they do theraputic dosages but they also see what is physically viable,if they could do nebido into 500mg/ml I am pretty sure they would,less oil used,less amps used,smaller packaging = more profits. But to get an undeconate ester to hold at high dose isn't gonna happen... 350mg per ml is pushing it.I do get the scepticism,don't get me wrong,I just don't think that the public should be lead to believe that this product is physically possible to make,maybe admin can shed some light on the ester weights etc at those dosages and how much solvent u would need to get all that to mix into 1 ml.

I mean look at pgw's super test,320mg per ml,a lot of solvent and high doseage to get to disolve into 1ml of oil,how many guys complain of the injection pain? Loads.the same would be the issue with this product if it could actually hold in suspension at those doses.

My uneducated opinion would be that they're using fancy phrases to BS naive customers, particularly based on them stealing their marketing phrases from the website I posted above.

In all likelihood, the product is underdosed, which would make it easy to obtain the unobtainium you mention.

I just don't see why people would buy the shit again if it doesn't work. That's why I said someone should try pinning 2ml's for 5weeks. If you don't gain then yes its under dosed. If I could get the stuff I would have given it a whirl...

I should be getting some this week and I think I'll give it a bash. I know jakes says a 5wk trial would be cool but I'm probably gonna do at least 12weeks considering the long esters. Also thinking at throwing in extra 2mls a week of enanthate and front load it with tbool... Could be legit if the stuff isn't shit:)

If you don't see a gain of 1-2kg in the first 5weeks the stuff is kak... That's why I said 5weeks (1 x10ml vial of the stuff) if it works you can add another. If you add the test you won't know what is working, is it the hybrid mix or the test? See what I mean.

jakes wrote: I'm not convinced that running 2 19nor substances will shut you down harder than one. I think it comes down to the dose you use... Libido should still be fine if your running at least 1.5times as much test.

As for the products being under dosed you may be right. I can't really comment on that

Running the two together was never a libido problem but rather a gyno-waiting-to-happen due to the Progesterone sides.

Jakes- ya I know exactly what you mean jakes. I'm gonna talk some guys in the gym today who've taken the stuff and see what they say... Also they guy who sells the stuff is a personal trainer and seen many coarses so hopefully he has taken. And I mean as you say it wouldn't be shit if guys are speaking so highly about it. The only thing I'm worried about asking guys in the gym is every oke reckons he knows everything about juice yet they pct with kessar... Haha.

@jack, prolactin related gyno is yet to be proven as far as I know. Supposedly dostinex helps...

Kessar is the most popular way of doing it. I won't call it ineffective just not as effective as kessar, clomid plus pregnyl. We are privileged to have better pct protocols.

Really interested in how this goes down, keep us updated.

whos to say that there is actually all those things in a bottle,it might just be over priced test cyprionate which is bound to work.

If its test cyp and a scam or hoax like you think (with valid reasons) it will probably just be 250mg test cyp per ml... Gains won't be that fantastic then... I've googled the stuff and some people gave great reviews. If it works its the best bang for buck steroid out there.

Thanks guys this thread is very informative. I tend to agree with a lot of the guys from other threads where blends have been discussed before - Rather stick to the single estered Test as you know exactly what your dosage is.

Howzit guys, sorry took some time to get back. Well I've spoken to the guy that sells axio QDR5 and he just explained briefly as he had a client today. He said all the guys he knows who've taken it and sold have really enjoyed the product. Nice size and strength increase with a harder look. Said one of his clients went from benching 80 at 6ereps,to 100 at 12 clean reps- I know dbols could do this but I mean just a slight example. Also I was gonna try some but I've decided to stick away from tren for a while. He also said he's going on at the end of the month so he'll be able to give more insight. Either way I think it's gonna turn out to be a fairly decent blend and work well for some guys. As soon as I actually talk to guys who've been on it and can give a proper description of their experiences I will inform everyone:)

I really doubt that the dosage is accurate in those hybrids. Would love to know how they get all that into 1ml!

Could someone explain to me specially the chemical engineers on the forum if you have put any thought into the fact that Axio and Syntrop might not be using conventional oils to make their product. Here you are slagging a really good product with all your high and mighty theories. And you are forgetting to return to basic chemistry. You just pick the vial up look at it and say..."Nah this is kak dont use it" without doing your homework 1st.

Here is some news for ya...the importer of these products can not keep up with the demand for the product and here is another thing NOT ONE PERSON returned their vial and said its does not work. Sure some people get stung by the amount of mg's but ask yourself a quesstion why does the other brands not do that? Is it because they under dosed and you are not getting what you are paying for.

Some people on the forum and you know who you are are like closet queens....will slag anything as long as its not the "approved" site/forum brand.

Some brave people have stepped into light and moved from "THE" brand to Axio....never to return to their old stupid ways.

Ask your supplier about AXIO and Syntrop Hybrids and if they sell it they will tell you that it outsells any other brand they have.

ok please tell us what oils these rocket scientists are using to manufacture with then?