back on the pre-workout bandwagon

sorry to bring it up again, i know there are currently 2 other threads, but would be nice to maybe get a poll going to find out which pre-workouts are recommended as the best out there from the forum. I have not used a pre-workout this year and i am totally battling to train, really cant make! So i started popping heat that i got for the wife to help! Took only 1 cap every other day before training, it made a difference, training was much better plus i lost 4kg in the past month and a half, but, i just cant stand the jittery feeling i get from heat, it even lasts till the next day! i dunno why! I used all the dmaa pre-workouts and stimulant stuff and felt good. I just seem super sensitive to heat! Wife takes 2 at a time! So I need to jump back on the pre-workout bandwagon, something not too hard on the wallet and without dmaa!

why dont you consider changing up your diet and having a pre work out meal or using something like coconut oil with 200mg of caffeine pre work out,that would be a better option in my opinion, i only use pre workouts maybe once a week on a back or leg day thats all.

thanks dj. Pre-workout meal should be some oats and raisons..? The coconut oil and caffeine, just mix it up together and gulp down how long before workout? I am assuming the pre-workout you use is condense?..

it can be any carb meal that has low protein in my opinion, the meal is usually 1 hour before work out, the coconut oil is about 15-20minutes before work out. and condense is 20mins before legs or back.

thanks alot DJ. Just one last thing, how much of coconut oil? And i would assume, the day you use condense, you dont use the coconut oil and caffeine?

1 table spoon. try and train with out the condense completely,u will benefit more from just the coconut oil and condense,plus coconut oil will help with thyroid output... its good stuff.

Thanks alot DJ !!! Much appreciated.

@DJ

Coconut Oil - where would you purchase this? I only of BSSA that sells the 2lt?
Thanks in advance and thanks for all the great informative posts!

I looked high and low for it, found at fruit and veg type place

I bought my coconut oil at Dischem

Hey DJ....just wanna know where do you get your coconut oil from? So far I got a brand called "parachute" and its R60 for 500ml.

ok, got some coconut oil from spice emporium for R35! Got me some condense too...nice size bottle thats only 1/4 full, lol...had a look at jack3d micro, R100 more so stuck with the condense. Then also at the supp shop, they had 2 diff bottles of heat, one was red bottle(120caps) with grey lid and other was white with red lid(60caps) i think. Anyhow, they reckon that the white bottle was twice as stronger and the original formula, (both said 550mg) As far as i know/knew the red bottle was the good one and others are "fakes"...Am i wrong?