clenbuterol- liquid pharma

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21 Sep 2009 22:59 #23485 by johann21
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I've been using clen from liquid pharma for just over a week now and its really a great fat loss agent...

Just one thing that concerns me: I've heard about muscle cramps while on clen, but f*$k me what I experienced could be compaired with a seizure or something!!!

I was doing some leg raises and after the second set I felt a funny twitch in my abs,.. I tensed it abit and all of a sudden my entire stomach contracted. It doesnt sound so bad but it was excrusiating!! Even the skin around my stomach felt like it was on fire!!!

All this only went away after about 20mins. I had to ly down without using my abs at all with a warm water bottle on it.

Anyone ever experience anything like this before?..

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22 Sep 2009 00:04 #23487 by Mr Moose
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Yea i had the same thing also weighted leg raises as the culprate but not from the clen- mine was either overtraining or Var pump:
Clen shouldnt be that violent what was your dose and did you by anychance kill your abs before the leg raises??

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22 Sep 2009 00:18 #23488 by johann21
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No I only did the 2 sets of legraises..

Dose is 120 mcg per day.. I cant take it higher or I dont get any sleep!!

Does anavar give you such a great pump? I live for the pump so I must give it a try then!!!

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22 Sep 2009 09:19 #23501 by Sting
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If you are getting cramps like that from the Clen I would suggest lowering the dose. You should be taking taurine with Clen, it will help with the cramping but you should still be taking taurine regardless of whether you have cramps or not

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22 Sep 2009 11:22 #23525 by Mr Moose
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Well iam quite a big guy and only take 100mcg at my max dose. So lower it 2 that i would suggest:
As far as the taurine, it is essential as is the ketotifen.
Ha Ha var pumps on high doses are not those pleasant pumps you often enjoy they are like dry, tight, cramping pumps- for the first few weeks of my high dose last cycle, cardio, bike in particular was pure slaughter from the var. Not to mention biceps and abs:
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22 Sep 2009 11:37 #23527 by Sting
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Mr Moose wrote:

Well iam quite a big guy and only take 100mcg at my max dose. So lower it 2 that i would suggest:
As far as the taurine, it is essential as is the ketotifen.


The ketotifen isn't essential but the taurine is, especially at high doses of clen

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22 Sep 2009 11:41 #23530 by Mr_SA
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120mcg of the LP clen after just one week is a bit hectic. You should start on 60mcg/day and work your way up. I would suggest 100mcg of the LP clen to be about your max. You will end up doing more harm than good if you over dose!
Drop down to about 80mcg (2 x 40mcg)/day and work back up.

The LP clen is potent. If it was the tabs, 120mcg would be fine, but this is a bit more potent than that!!!!!

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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22 Sep 2009 11:43 #23531 by Mr_SA
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Beesting:
Taurine is for???????
Where can you get it??? (i think its legal, so, i am not asking for suppliers! ;-))

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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22 Sep 2009 12:00 #23535 by WTF
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You can get Taurine from dischem, its an amino acid.

I tried the LP clen for the first time on 60mcg.......thought I was gonna die !!!
That stuff is potent.......I've been on clen and ketotifen for 4 weeks, my dosage is up to 60mcg now....

I have lots of ideas. Trouble is, most of them suck.

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22 Sep 2009 12:19 #23538 by Sting
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Taurine is a modified amino acid that is derived from the aa cysteine. Its not essential because your body modifies cysteine to get taurine. It has many functions including its use in diabetics as it is believed to aid blood sugar control. Taking clen depletes taurine and thats why you should supplement with it while taking clen. I managed to get it earlier this year from a pharmaceutical company where I get my glutamine. So speak to LSJ and he may be able to organize you a kilo. You only need about half a teaspoon a day and sells for about R60/kg

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22 Sep 2009 21:34 #23622 by johann21
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I'll definately give LSJ a shout...

I've got alot of muscle science ripped hardcore which is loaded with tuarine.. I'm not sure of the quantity, do you know how much I should consume in mg?..

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22 Sep 2009 21:39 #23623 by Sting
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5g taurine a day should be fine. Just take half a teaspoon twice a day or one once a day if u want. That should be enough, your body still synthesizes it

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22 Sep 2009 22:07 #23624 by johann21
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Cool, thanks for the advice..

Will 60mcg really do it for me after I've had my dose on 120mcg?..

I know that your beta 2 receptors shut down so will a lower dose than I've been taking really have any effect?..

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23 Sep 2009 09:13 #23641 by Sting
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johann21 wrote:

Cool, thanks for the advice..

Will 60mcg really do it for me after I've had my dose on 120mcg?..

I know that your beta 2 receptors shut down so will a lower dose than I've been taking really have any effect?..

The effect might be minimal but you wont feel it. Just take 60mcg to make up the remaining days of two weeks then take a two week break. Then start at 40 or 60 mcg again and build it up to 100mcg, 120 if you wish, just remember the higher the top dose, the longer it may take for receptors to regenerate, but obviously there are other factors that will contribute to receptor recovery. I saw a guy on meso taking 200mcg and that is just insane, if you are taking a dose that high then clearly your receptors are kaka

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