Stimulant-FREE Pre-Workout booster ?!?

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26 Nov 2009 13:56 #29954 by N3rd
I'm looking for info on white flying elephants again....
Do any of you know of a stimulant-free pre-workout arginine/creatine booster??

This would be very useful when you are taking fat-burners with stimulants, but still desire a arginine/creatine booster.

I have tried Muscle Science's Power Pump, but its useless and expensive.

Do any of you perhaps know of something that I am looking for, but that actually works? :hmm

I am open to suggestions, such as buying individual ingredients, etc..

Help plz? B)

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26 Nov 2009 14:25 #29959 by Sting
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Buy raw arginine and taurine, speak to LSJ as he may be able to get arg and taurine for you, taurine is very cheap by the kilo, arginine is a bit more pricy but it will last ages. Add ceatine monohydrate and some WMS together with some short sugars if you want and maybe some green tea extract. Taurine is good for stabilising blood sugar levels and arg will give you a good pump

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26 Nov 2009 14:25 #29960 by N3rd
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The only product that I can find is:
(Before you flame me, I'm not saying its any good, just that it is what I want...)
USN :( Nitrox VigR....
Contains..
CFM Nitro™ (Micro Fraction NO Amplifier)
L-Citrulline Malate
Alpha-lipoic acid
Niacin
L-Arginine-Alpha-Ketoglutarate 3g

CFM Nitro™ is a patent pending, all natural whey derived nitric oxide synthase (NOS) activator, which has been selectively enriched in proteins and peptides to boost nitric oxide production to induce maximum pump. (Whateva that means)

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26 Nov 2009 14:27 #29962 by N3rd
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Beesting wrote:

Buy raw arginine and taurine, speak to LSJ as he may be able to get arg and taurine for you, taurine is very cheap by the kilo, arginine is a bit more pricy but it will last ages. Add ceatine monohydrate and some WMS together with some short sugars if you want and maybe some green tea extract. Taurine is good for stabilising blood sugar levels and arg will give you a good pump


Thanks, do you think just plain regular cheap l-arginine bought at dischem will give a decent pump?

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26 Nov 2009 14:33 #29965 by Sting
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It should be fine, arginine is arginine, may be expensive though from dischem as its already pricy from the pharmaceutical companies so if LSJ can organise a kilo for you and you take 5g before gym it will last for 200 workouts. The taste is really kak though, like drinking hydrochloric acid

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26 Nov 2009 14:40 #29966 by N3rd
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Thanks for the heads-up :)
Will drink it with some Oros :P LOL

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26 Nov 2009 14:41 #29967 by jackrabbit1
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Beesting wrote:

......like drinking hydrochloric acid



You should know..... right?

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26 Nov 2009 14:52 #29969 by Sting
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Yep, I drink hydrochloric acid on a daily basis, you should try it, does wonders

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26 Nov 2009 22:58 #30034 by Inja
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The pump aint that great with Arg. Nothing OTC really gives me great pumps anyhow. The Arg is a salt and will make the oros taste bad!

I have 5g Arg pre-workout in case there are any nitric oxide vasodilation benefits... But I don't entirely believe the NO hype. Doesn't do much for me in any form.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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27 Nov 2009 00:13 #30045 by N3rd
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Inja wrote:

The pump aint that great with Arg. Nothing OTC really gives me great pumps anyhow. The Arg is a salt and will make the oros taste bad!

I have 5g Arg pre-workout in case there are any nitric oxide vasodilation benefits... But I don't entirely believe the NO hype. Doesn't do much for me in any form.


So, what you're saying is, that pure Arginine doesn't give you a good pump, but also that you don't get a good pump from any (legal) product...

Getting pumps really motivates me, and they are definitely harder and fuller with supplementation, for me..

P.S. Its the other way round, the Oros is supposed to make the Arg taste better :laugh: lol

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06 Jan 2010 13:11 #32618 by stripflOw
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How about Simply Slim product? Ive seen people lose some serious weight on that stuff and they dont even train. Thats stim free and then you can take whatever pre workout you want? Raw supplements would be cheaper, just an idea though.

Ive never tried it but one thing I liked about it is, it makes you thirsty hence you drink more water. I have an issue drinking enough water. My 2c :P

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06 Jan 2010 14:01 #32629 by N3rd
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Hey strip,
I've checked out the Simply Slim ingredients,
looks like every other OTC fat-burner,
with caffiene and synephrine + other goodies.
I like the progress that ephedra or yohimbine gives me.
Like I said, I'm looking for a stim-free pre-workout,
not a stim-free burner ;)
(Although I don't think SimplySlim is stim-free)

Thanks for the input, appreciated
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07 Jan 2010 20:43 #32825 by Tippster
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Take animal pump and drop the red pill - it contain all the stims.

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07 Jan 2010 20:59 #32826 by N3rd
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Thanks Tipps,
I read that on a bobybuilding.com forum,
but that product is a little above my budget...
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08 Jan 2010 09:46 #32887 by stripflOw
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My bad then, but ill probably get shunned for saying this but the vigr from usn you mentioned aint bad. I got pretty decent pumps. :P

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08 Jan 2010 11:11 #32903 by N3rd
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Cool stuff, thanks strip. :)
I might just give it a try then ;)

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