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For me the LP Abombs were absolutely spectacular. Amazing results and zero side effects!

Pyroclasm wrote: For me the LP Abombs were absolutely spectacular. Amazing results and zero side effects!

Damn bro, textbook definition says Anadrol is harsh with sides, but then there's cases like you and Oupa that get all the pros and non of the cons. Frikken tempted to try it now haha.

I used Keifei Oxy was really decent...

Furk wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: For me the LP Abombs were absolutely spectacular. Amazing results and zero side effects!

Damn bro, textbook definition says Anadrol is harsh with sides, but then there's cases like you and Oupa that get all the pros and non of the cons. Frikken tempted to try it now haha.

Just do it!

Haha Pyroclasm! You cheek! Ok I'll see if I can work it into a blast this year. I really want to pair it with tren too, but I have chronic insomnia as is, and my doctor has yet to prescribe sleeping pills that actually work. FML.

Doesn't noxidem help you with insomnia issues?

Oupa wrote: Doesn't noxidem help you with insomnia issues?

Zolpidem as I know it. Yeah, but like I said, my doctor is yet to prescribe it. Guess she want's to try all the other alternatives that aren't as harsh. Addiction wise. Benzodiazepines don't touch me, I don't feel a thing.

I've gotten hold of it before, it works. But if I take harsh drugs like this, I'd prefer to do it through a doctor's script.

Furk wrote:

Oupa wrote: Doesn't noxidem help you with insomnia issues?

Zolpidem as I know it. Yeah, but like I said, my doctor is yet to prescribe it. Guess she want's to try all the other alternatives that aren't as harsh. Addiction wise. Benzodiazepines don't touch me, I don't feel a thing.

I've gotten hold of it before, it works. But if I take harsh drugs like this, I'd prefer to do it through a doctor's script.

I get this all the time. It is the same as people who use 250mg Test per week and say that steroids don't work. You just need to up the dosage and realise that there is the advised range is fucking useless.

Add: Also remember there are many commonly used drugs that negatively interfere with the metabolism of most Benzos. For example if you take cortisone then you need to take triple the amount of Benzos for the same effect. I know that Zolpidem is a 'non-benzo' but it is metabolised and works exactly the same as benzos.

Pyroclasm wrote: I get this all the time. It is the same as people who use 250mg Test per week and say that steroids don't work. You just need to up the dosage and realise that there is the advised range is fucking useless.

You're saying that the prescribed dosage is wrong/ insufficient? I've doubled the dose on Benzo's what my doc told me to take, still no difference. Not sure why you are mentioning AAS though, just for comparison's sake?

Pyroclasm wrote: Add: Also remember there are many commonly used drugs that negatively interfere with the metabolism of most Benzos. For example if you take cortisone then you need to take triple the amount of Benzos for the same effect. I know that Zolpidem is a 'non-benzo' but it is metabolised and works exactly the same as benzos.

Yeah no worries here mate, I don't take any other meds that have interference or interaction with the sleeping pills.

Just to give you something to relate to. 1% of the population are immune just FYI. What dose did your doctor prescribe?

Adco-Alzm, 0.25mg. So bumped up to 0.5mg.

I assume you mean Alzam? Like Alprazolam normal release? In that case 0.5mg is also low/avg. Try 1mg and if that doesn't work then 1.5mg the next day, continue up to 3mg. If then you still feel nothing then you know. Just for peace of mind there is no danger to this exercise. Doctors are pansies when it comes to prescribing benzos because of the addiction stigma.

Yeah sorry Alzam is just a generic available in ZA.

About doctors being pansies, they kinda took the Hippocratic Oath, addiction is real mate, they have a responsibility. Just because we are, and hang around people that are comfortable to self medicate, doesn't mean the general populace does it with ease and control.

Not talking shit about your opinion Pyroclasm, don't take it the wrong way.

Not at all bud I share your sentiment fully! But I know my audience and in this case I can speak without a filter. Sleeping tablets are super addictive in the wrong hands and I know a person using 59x Stilnox tabs everyday!! Please remember to distinguish between Benzos and sleeping tabs. Benzos are NOT just sleeping tabs they are successfully used for anxiety and depression. Especially Xanor which is what we are discussing. If we were talking about Dormicum the convo would not be so liberal you can trust me on that. Just remember that steroids have the same stigma as benzos, and the reason why we all are on the side of steroids is because of knowledge. So when I speak about benzos it is because I can look past the stigma crap and see them for what they really are and how they can be used successfully. There are benzos with zero potential for addiction. This must tell you there is a distinction to be made.

Was just going through some of the articles and read through the anapolon one, it says that AIs won't be affective in controlling estrogen with anapolon? Is there something that would be effective or do you just have to live with it while on cycle?

However coming off Xanax can be one of the most difficult tasks you will ever face, specially of you have been on them for awhile. There is very few people that can just come off them, most of the time you have to substitute with other medication to prevent nasty anxiety / panic attacks when coming off.

00pump wrote: However coming off Xanax can be one of the most difficult tasks you will ever face, specially of you have been on them for awhile. There is very few people that can just come off them, most of the time you have to substitute with other medication to prevent nasty anxiety / panic attacks when coming off.

Yes that's correct hey! The problem is not the Xanax it's the actual problem, i.e. the reason the patient started Xanax in the first place. Interesting for me when commingled off is the difference between patients who have their problem resolved (e.g. just going through a patch) vs those coming off because of e.g. tolerance issues.

Jono77 wrote: Was just going through some of the articles and read through the anapolon one, it says that AIs won't be affective in controlling estrogen with anapolon? Is there something that would be effective or do you just have to live with it while on cycle?

AI's will 100% effectively lower estrogen- Anapolon will not affect this. I think perhaps a misunderstanding? Anapolon causes gyno by elevating progesterone and not estrogen.

Pyroclasm wrote:

00pump wrote: However coming off Xanax can be one of the most difficult tasks you will ever face, specially of you have been on them for awhile. There is very few people that can just come off them, most of the time you have to substitute with other medication to prevent nasty anxiety / panic attacks when coming off.

Yes that's correct hey! The problem is not the Xanax it's the actual problem, i.e. the reason the patient started Xanax in the first place. Interesting for me when commingled off is the difference between patients who have their problem resolved (e.g. just going through a patch) vs those coming off because of e.g. tolerance issues.

100 percent

Pyroclasm wrote:

Jono77 wrote: Was just going through some of the articles and read through the anapolon one, it says that AIs won't be affective in controlling estrogen with anapolon? Is there something that would be effective or do you just have to live with it while on cycle?

AI's will 100% effectively lower estrogen- Anapolon will not affect this. I think perhaps a misunderstanding? Anapolon causes gyno by elevating progesterone and not estrogen.

So cabaser will control the gyno by lowering progesterone when using anaps? I'll be cycling tren and anaps soon so would I up the dose accordingly?

The main role of Cabasser is to control Prolactin not Progesterone hey.

Control estrogen and progesterone shouldn't increase that high.

Have to agree with Pump about LP anapolon being too strong for me too ,get very high blood and headaches, but usually only when i cycle them in summer for some reason. Using British dragons now they also strong but not as strong as the LP anapolon. taking 50mg after hgh shot in morning and 50mg around 13:00 after 2nd hgh shot then keep 1 under my tongue while i train. Learnt that from a pro and just kept on doing it everytime with a new cycle,thats another reason why i prefer the tablets. :evil:

So you are using 150mg Anaps ED?