Anavar cycle

BEN3 wrote: Currently on 60mg daily LP var 20mg. No issues. Good stuff

Awesome stuff bud. It's quite motivating when hearing your cycle is going well.

Quick question regarding the pumps, is it bad at 60mg? Specifically asking about the legs since i do quite a bit of running.

Used LP Proviron recently. Can recommend, good stuff.

Thanks Zaino, appreciate the feedback.

Think it's pretty much settled that LP will be used when the time comes

Just and update, noticed my meals were all way too big and have cut down on portion sizes since my eating was mentioned in this thread. I thought i would feel hungry and lose energy, but quite the opposite. i actually feel more energetic than before!

jeans are feeling a bit loose and this in 2 weeks. leads me to believe i am doing something right.
haven't weighed myself yet either. will update once i get this done.

Wanted to check BF changes at VA but machine was broken... tried a few other branches and all of them were broken. Thanks VA for giving me my money's worth
If i get the chance to pop in at my bro's i will have it checked there. Hopefully he doesn't kick me out again thinking i am spying on his boxers (i belong to a rival club :lol: )

Hoping to have reached my BF and eating goals by Jan next year where after i will do the cycle. perfect since there will be a few braai's happening in December

Nicely done.. there are some steroids that cutting back calories and not feeling hungry is difficult, but Anavar isn't one of those.

just an update. have been eating much better and dropped 2kg on the scale.
still haven't had bodyfat checked, but i am pretty sure i am losing bodyfat.

i also got some fat burners from my younger bro. he got a few bottles for free and offered me a bottle of Thermobuild. below is the label. wanted to know if this will be of any benefit if i hold onto it to use with the cycle? i see it's got some nice fat burning agents as well as creatine (which i read is good to use with anavar). if it's not good to use on the cycle then maybe i can use it now to drop bodyfat some more?

Also, i have stopped using creating as i think i was holding onto a lot of water. probably why i have lost the 2kg as well?

So do you or don't you want to use creatine? Your post is a little confusing, one minute you are glad your fat burner contains it and then in the next breath you say you've stopped using it due to holding water?

That looks close on the worst (ineffective) fat burners I've ever seen.

00pump wrote: That looks close on the worst (ineffective) fat burners I've ever seen.

Looks like a cardio pre-workout at first glance. TBQO most commercial fat burners are just that, a bit of a buzz for your workout.

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Schmidt wrote: So do you or don't you want to use creatine? Your post is a little confusing, one minute you are glad your fat burner contains it and then in the next breath you say you've stopped using it due to holding water?

i have stopped the monohydrate for now. However i have read quite a few sites recommending creatine while using anavar. so the bit about it containing creatine was more for on cycle when it will (in theory) be most beneficial.

Furk wrote:

00pump wrote: That looks close on the worst (ineffective) fat burners I've ever seen.

Looks like a cardio pre-workout at first glance. TBQO most commercial fat burners are just that, a bit of a buzz for your workout.

Sent from my carrier pigeon.

thanks for the responses guys. i am not too clued up on these, but always reading that the grean tea extract as well as chromium are good for fat loss and keeping insulin levels stable. not to mention the hype all other supplement manufacturers make about the ingredients. i guess i have fallen prey to all the misleading by our supplement manufacturers (as usual hahaha)

Furk, he did mention he trains much longer and feels alot more energetic when taking these. i haven't tried them yet.

So from what i gather this product is nothing wonderful except maybe a pre-workout benefit??
might give it a miss then, don't like the feeling i get from pre-workout hence me not using it. i guess i'm sensitive stimulants?

Hoosain wrote:

Schmidt wrote: So do you or don't you want to use creatine? Your post is a little confusing, one minute you are glad your fat burner contains it and then in the next breath you say you've stopped using it due to holding water?

i have stopped the monohydrate for now. However i have read quite a few sites recommending creatine while using anavar. so the bit about it containing creatine was more for on cycle when it will (in theory) be most beneficial.

Why have you stopped using creatine mono?

Schmidt wrote:

Hoosain wrote:

Schmidt wrote: So do you or don't you want to use creatine? Your post is a little confusing, one minute you are glad your fat burner contains it and then in the next breath you say you've stopped using it due to holding water?

i have stopped the monohydrate for now. However i have read quite a few sites recommending creatine while using anavar. so the bit about it containing creatine was more for on cycle when it will (in theory) be most beneficial.

Why have you stopped using creatine mono?

I am trying to lose a bit of bodyfat and have cut some calories. I can tell that i am losing fat, but with the extra water i seem to hold with creatine i do not really see the results as much. decided to drop it just to see if the calorie deficit is making that big of a difference.

Ever since i stopped i could tell that cutting down on my calories is working and recently it has shown on the scale as well. I'm thinking the 2kg loss is mostly water from the creatine use?
To add, it's alot easier to maintain the calorie cut when you see the results (call it motivation)

Keep in mind this is all my own opinions on whats happening in my body regarding water loss. any advice, guidance and criticism is welcome.

Do you suggest i keep using the creatine?
Keep in mind my goal for now is to drop BF enough so that i can start a cycle in Jan if all goes well.

Water retention from creatine is intramuscular. I highly suggest starting creatine again. There is no reason to come off of the stuff, ever.


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thanks Hormonas. I will take my first dose right away.

i normally take 5mg in the morning, then again pre and post workout. hope that's ok?

Hoosain wrote: thanks Hormonas. I will take my first dose right away.

i normally take 5mg in the morning, then again pre and post workout. hope that's ok?

When did you stop taking it? If you stopped less than two or three weeks ago then you just need to take 4-5g per day, it doesn't matter what time. Any more than that is a waste. If you stopped longer than 3 weeks ago then do a few days of 10-15g and then go down to 4-5g from then. Loading isn't necessary but I see no reason not to do it.


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thanks. it was less than 3 weeks ago.

I generally take 5g (saw i accidentally wrote "mg" earlier) before and then again after training in a protein shake. so from now on once per day only.

thanks. will stick to 5gr a day.

Not trying to pick a fight or split hairs I have found 5g twice a day to be most effective for maintenance after loading Creatine to keep the muscles and your body saturated definitely no less than 10g per day when on Anavar to really make the strength gains shine provided you are running 40-60mg Anavar with 60mg being preferred.

thanks Rooi bul.

Could be my imagination, but i also feel like i can go much longer when taking more than one serving.
many years ago in my teens i used creatine and that's when i felt that the once a day wasn't working for me. adapted my 2-3 times a day from there onward.

could have been placebo? my opinion was that more was needed at my weight... but we all know opinions are just that lol. so i'm always still learning.

so when i start the cycle it will be 10g per day for sure.

also the more i read the more i see that test is suggested.
considering adding test as well.
was thinking maybe a long ester like test c since i am not a big fan of needles. that way i can pin once a week?
i also understand that the test c takes some time before you feel it work, meaning it would have to be a long cycle to really benefit from it.
not sure on how long would be best, but with one of the sample cycles i see it stacked with primo and going for 18 weeks.
Was thinking of doing the cycle with Primo as in the sample cycles, but then also thought it would be too many compounds for a first cycle and decided to keep it simple.

So maybe the Anavar front load for 6 weeks until the test kicks in, take a break for 8 weeks and then add it again for 6-8 weeks to cover my bridge?

I see that hcg is added in at week 9, thinking this part of the cycle should be kept the same to keep my testes in check?
I will also continue hcg use throughout PCT to make it the same as PCT 2?

One thing i don't have figured out though is exactly how much test will be needed per week.
Most would say 500mg (from what i read) but some say lower dose is good for a first cycle to see how your body reacts to it. Then i also read that your body produces almost as much test as you would get from a 250mg shot of test which kind of contradicts the less is more theory. so what would be a good does for a first cycle?

as usual all comments, criticism and advise is welcome.
i would prefer to be told i am asking something stupid than to be doing something stupid without asking hahaha

Remember your goals also affects your dosages.

So talk to me what would your goal be for your upcoming cycle? Cutting or bulking? The Primobolan injectable cycle is not a novice cycle so forget that length. For a first cycle I wouldn't go longer than 16weeks on testosterone. And HCG would be started from week 4

ok, so i don't really want to bulk but would obviously be gaining a bit of size from the test.
The main thing however is to gain strength and then a bit of cutting.

Initially it was going to be an anavar only cycle, but now i decided to add in some test.
i am not really a fan of needles, hence the test c for once a week pins?

HCG starts week 4. got it!
Now the question is how long and which dosage would be best.

Well for Test cyp to be Injected once a week only you would need at least 1ml/250mg hower most would not recommend less than 2ml/500mg. I think to cut you would do fine on 1ml/250mg as Anavar is going to be in play provided diet/macros and calorie deficit is on point as well as training.

Note twice a week injection would be preferred but you can get away wit 1ml once every 7days on a cut

I wouldn't run less than 10g a day of Creatine regardless if I am on cycle or not. 5g twice daily with food.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Well for Test cyp to be Injected once a week only you would need at least 1ml/250mg hower most would not recommend less than 2ml/500mg. I think to cut you would do fine on 1ml/250mg as Anavar is going to be in play provided diet/macros and calorie deficit is on point as well as training.

Note twice a week injection would be preferred but you can get away wit 1ml once every 7days on a cut

Thanks for that pal.
if twice a week would be better i will just have to put my big boy pants on hahaha.
for now it's all planning and getting diet and training spot on. Diet is slowly but surely getting there. I am sure by 2017 i should have it perfect and second nature to know whats going in every day.

appreciate the response

as for creatine, lots of conflicting views all over. Will see how i do on 5 g a day and then go back to 10g a day in a few weeks to see if it makes any big difference in terms of performance.

Just an update guys.

i have changed my eating plan as well as stayed on creatine.

Also cut down on the long distance running and changed my cardio to HIIT
doing alot more weights now and started going heavier than before. i generally didn't go too heavy due to training alone and not having a spotter. i decided to just push and managed to bench 90kg for 8 reps with no spotter. pretty sure i can go heavier so will get a spotter next time out and aim to beat my 110kg 2 rep record from when i was 17yrs old lol
i will also be cutting out some MMA due to a gash just under the eye and a nagging fiance LOL.

Managed to drop BF down to 14%... used the VA machine again and not sure how accurate those are. the time frame in which i dropped 3% seems a bit short so i'm doubting the accuracy.
Weight down to 85kg now though.
Looking alot better, think it's due to more definition appearing.

ever since i changed my training style and seeing some difference in physique i have also decided to change my goal a bit. been thinking maybe some more size would not be a bad idea at all.

definitely adding test e/c. probably going to be 500mg per week for 12 weeks
was thinking longer test C once a week or test e twice a week. would prefer to pin once a week because i love needles so much lol

also been thinking of dropping the anavar and going with winstrol as a bridge. i see it being recommended more than anavar as a bridge in most cycles. will still be giving me strength and help with cutting a bit.
i was thinking of using Winstrol as a front load for 4 weeks, and then again as a bridge for 4-6 weeks. is this ok? or should i stick to the anavar?

as usual... all criticism, feedback and advice is welcome