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15 Jul 2010 15:10 #47510 by Creatine Freek
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Hi Ppl im very new to this so i need some propper advice.
The Dianabol pills i know its week taken without an cycle but say i just use is while i train for about 6 weeks will it help out in anyway???? even if its just 1%

And? are there any Pill similar to this for about the same price????

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15 Jul 2010 15:22 #47512 by Roozer
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WELCOME Bud please provide us with some stats for example

AGE= ?
WEIGHT= ?
HEIGHT= ?
BODYFAT%= ?
TRAINING SINCE= ?
DIET= ?

with this we can give accurate and healthy advise

As ek storm volg my, as ek omdraai skiet my, as ek sterwe wreek my, so help my God

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15 Jul 2010 16:33 #47516 by BleedingEyes
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Creatine Freek wrote:

Hi Ppl im very new to this so i need some propper advice.
The Dianabol pills i know its week taken without an cycle but say i just use is while i train for about 6 weeks will it help out in anyway???? even if its just 1%

And? are there any Pill similar to this for about the same price????

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Hey man. Can you try that again. . .

How new are you to this?

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15 Jul 2010 17:03 #47517 by CHAPEL
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BleedingEyes wrote:

Creatine Freek wrote:

Hi Ppl im very new to this so i need some propper advice.
The Dianabol pills i know its week taken without an cycle but say i just use is while i train for about 6 weeks will it help out in anyway???? even if its just 1%

And? are there any Pill similar to this for about the same price????

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Hey man. Can you try that again. . .

How new are you to this?


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15 Jul 2010 18:38 #47518 by Mr Moose
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Whats with this Dbol craze.... Do dont touch it please!! :smack-bum

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15 Jul 2010 19:08 #47519 by Yohimbe
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Did anyone understand a word of that??

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15 Jul 2010 19:18 #47522 by admin
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Creatine Freek wrote:

Hi Ppl im very new to this so i need some propper advice.
The Dianabol pills i know its week taken without an cycle but say i just use is while i train for about 6 weeks will it help out in anyway???? even if its just 1%

And? are there any Pill similar to this for about the same price????


Dianabol is not "weak" on it's own, but that is not the point. The point is that you do steroids the proper way or not at all. There is no quick fix and if you are looking for one, dianabol is not the way to go...

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16 Jul 2010 07:36 #47531 by BleedingEyes
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The Dbol craze - dbol hits schools like cigarettes. I remember hearing about dbol in matric. Guys think its a mild steroid and they dont get told about the sides & pct's. Its really big in shools where rugby is more important than maths (not generalizing). Its rather unfortunate because it gets to the really young guys.

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16 Jul 2010 09:43 #47532 by Creatine Freek
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Like I SAID " i know fuck all about this"

Instead of saying dnt touch it or i dont understand a word he said cant u rather explian to me why not to touch Dbol and whats better etc......


Thats why i joined the forum in the first place... for advice


anyway my age is 21 from Aug
i weigh 87kg, i dono my hight
been training for 5 years

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16 Jul 2010 10:00 #47534 by BleedingEyes
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Creatine Freek wrote:

Like I SAID " i know fuck all about this"

Instead of saiying dnt touch it or i dont understand a word he said cant u rather explian to me why not to touch Dbol and whats better etc......


Thats why i joined the forum in the first place... for advice


anyway my age is 21 from Aug
i weigh 87kg, i dono my hight
been training for 5 years


Such foul words. . .Potty mouth. :smack-bum

We said "I dont understand a word" because we/some of us, didnt understand what you were trying to say. Thats simple, all you needed to do was rephrase. Help us help you, if we cant understand what you want to know, we cant help you. :nana2

Dianabol is not a mild steroid. Apart from the strength of it, you need to know the side affects and what pct's to use. It's not just a matter of taking it for 6 weeks and seeing what happens. It is also liver toxic. It is also very rarely used on its own (by people who do their research).

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What is your diet and workout like?

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16 Jul 2010 10:04 #47535 by Netro
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D-Bol is extremely toxic and should be used for 4 weeks only. It causes allot of water retention and gains are mostly not kept when on it. It fits nicely into a bulking cycle that consists out of long ester and used as a kick start to see gains while the longer esters take time to work.

You will get gains on an oral only cycle, but toxicity vs gains is way out and thus the advice to use it in a stack. D-Bol is one of the strongest orals around on a p/mg comparison and could cause kidney and liver issues if abused.

Rec dose is 40 - 100mg p/day for 4 weeks.
You need to drink allot of water to promote good kidney function and supplement with Cranberry and Milk Thistle.
Live values are to be checked after a course that contains this compound to make sure liver function is within normal range.

Sides:
Back pain
Head aches
Acne
Bloating
estrogen related

Gains are fast and 80- 90% is water retention. Strength goes up quickly and drops as fast when stopped.

I think that covers the basics. If used correctly you can get good gains, but you need to follow the rules.

An oral stack with D-Bol and Proviron will yield nice lean gains, but you need to make sure that this is not the only cycle you do as gains will be lost soon after if you do not follow up with good training and diet.

Is there anything else you need to know or have questions about?

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16 Jul 2010 10:31 #47536 by Creatine Freek
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Thanks ppl for the advice, Bleeding i never ment being a dick so i apologize. And ecuse my Mxit language :)

Ok i have Dbol on me at the moment but have not started using it, what do u recommend i use with it that is affordable.

Bec i do not just wana use the Dbol if i loose all the gains when stopped and mess myself up?

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16 Jul 2010 10:39 #47537 by Netro
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Look at a single ester testosterone, cypionate or enanthate.
Cypionate is generally cheaper and run for 10 weeks.

This is a great first time cycle, run at 250mg - 500mg p/week for 10 weeks and first 4 weeks of D-Bol.

Simple PCT of Kessar and Clomid is good.

And, yes, the testosterone you have to inject.

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16 Jul 2010 11:19 #47542 by Creatine Freek
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Cool,
Ok another Question if u dont mind. ?

I have heard of Tribolen (if spelt right)what is it used for?


Bec i heard i should try a stack of Dbol/Tribolen and SUS?

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16 Jul 2010 11:26 #47543 by Netro
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First timers are always advised to take a plain test cycle as a first cycle to gauge what you respond to. Sus is a test, but a blend. Rather stick to the single ester as it is easy to manage and to inject.

Tribolan 75 is definitely not advised for a beginner.
This is what it contains and comes in 20ml multi-dose vial - Metandriol Dipropionate 40mg, Nandrolone Decanoate 35mg.

Keep it simple and your gains will be good as long as your training and diet support your goals.

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16 Jul 2010 11:45 #47546 by Creatine Freek
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Ok so i should look at cypionate? with the dbol.

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16 Jul 2010 12:06 #47547 by Mr Moose
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Thanks for taking away my karma!

On a more happy note... Yes something along the lines of a single estered test for 12 weeks with a small 2 week front-load and something in the back like proviron for the PCT window! And then obviously PCT.

However that being said maybe train natural a little longer give it 6 more months of research etc and then come back with a cycle and cycle ready attitude> have no doubt you will have amazing results!

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16 Jul 2010 12:27 #47548 by BleedingEyes
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I thought I lost some karma too :cry

I'd DEFINITELY say research more. And give us more info on your diet, there's no use suggesting a course if you have 3 meals a day consisting of rice crispies, P/B & Jam sami's and moms cooking. How much size have you put on since you started gymming (not fat)? Has gym been consistent or on and off? If you are going to use an AS etc anyway, where do you intend to inject?

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16 Jul 2010 13:30 #47549 by Barbell
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Creatine Freek wrote:

Thanks ppl for the advice, Bleeding i never ment being a dick so i apologize. And ecuse my Mxit language :)

Ok i have Dbol on me at the moment but have not started using it, what do u recommend i use with it that is affordable.

Bec i do not just wana use the Dbol if i loose all the gains when stopped and mess myself up?


I certainly hope what you have there is the real deal and not some fake shit. Hopefully you got it from a reputable person and not some fly by night looking to make a quick buck but by the sounds of things you did or you would`nt have to ask all these questions. maybe you could post a pic of them or a description so guys here can possibly verify them.... B)

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16 Jul 2010 15:03 #47550 by jackrabbit1
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BleedingEyes wrote:

.... And give us more info on your diet, there's no use suggesting a course if you have 3 meals a day consisting of rice crispies, P/B & Jam sami's and moms cooking.....


Just to throw a spanner in here; At 23 i injected 1ml(100mg) pharma Depo Test(From Dr) once / week. Lived on Bells and Capt Morgan + coke and beer. Ate hardly anything and slept hardly any. And GREW plenty.

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16 Jul 2010 15:21 #47551 by Netro
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For sure.

So it started young then hey .... LOL
Seems we had similar diets at a similar age ... :laugh:

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16 Jul 2010 15:25 #47552 by Empire
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

BleedingEyes wrote:

.... And give us more info on your diet, there's no use suggesting a course if you have 3 meals a day consisting of rice crispies, P/B & Jam sami's and moms cooking.....


Just to throw a spanner in here; At 23 i injected 1ml(100mg) pharma Depo Test(From Dr) once / week. Lived on Bells and Capt Morgan + coke and beer. Ate hardly anything and slept hardly any. And GREW plenty.


could u also go to the movies and get coke and pop corn and a bus trip there and back all for 50c like my old lady goes on about ;)

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16 Jul 2010 15:43 #47553 by Netro
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We knew it as the finger bowl, not the movies

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16 Jul 2010 16:44 #47556 by jackrabbit1
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Netro wrote:

We knew it as the finger bowl, not the movies


HAHAHAHA!!!!

Double bells R2.00, Beer R1.00. Remember groaning at the new price of a bottle Bells when it went up to R16.00.

The Dr started me off on 25mg Deca / week, It worked. Asked for the Depo Test and he asked "why? deca is the best". Promised to only inject 1ml/week and did so.
Grew nice and big on that.
He later gave me 50 tabs anapolon as well - promise 1 tab / day! Never took it. Threw it away the other day.

O ja.... and smoked 1 1/2 packs of camel as well.

Point i am trying to make is that AAS will make you grow if you train. Even with a shit diet and shit lifestyle. You might kill yourself and your liver but you will grow.
At that age anyway. I find it a bit harder to gain weight nowadays.

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19 Jul 2010 07:32 #47619 by BleedingEyes
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Point i am trying to make is that AAS will make you grow if you train. Even with a shit diet and shit lifestyle. You might kill yourself and your liver but you will grow.
At that age anyway. I find it a bit harder to gain weight nowadays.


Obviously it will make you grow. But am I incorrect in bringing diet in as a point of importance? So if he gets 25grams of protein a day, it will make no difference compared to what he'd gain on a proper diet?

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