IGF used as site injection for muscle growth?

Hi guys,

Really need a bit of help and advice... I have been training and eating well... I'm currently on cycle now. will get to that shortly... Anyway I don't have calves... Well they there but very small compared to rest of my body... I have been training them 3 times a week. I need some help. I got told about synthol oil but there's no ways I will even consider it... And then test prop site injection into calves haha. I think that's rubbish.. And then IGF. I know you get different IGF's but I just want to get some more info on it and if I can use it to help my calves grow? How would one use this if he were just looking to get his calves bigger.

As I mentioned above about my cycle... Well cycle looks like this:
Week 1-current week(week4): test prop @ 100mg/day
Week1-3: turanabol @ 40-50mg a day.

I am looking to change up my cycle... Wanted to switch it up and go on tritren and then obviously change my test that I'm using to something with a long ester. Test enanthate or a sustanon. Sus 350 by dragon pharmaceuticals.

So this is what I want to start as of week 5-14 (10weeks): tritren at 300mg a week (150mg twice a week) and sus 350 twice a week so 700mg a week...

I haven't got the stuff yet so anyone have any issues about this or advice? I have just started using Femara (letrozole) as of this week so week 4 onwards I'll use it. Cut the tab into quarters so its about 0.66mg every2nd day that I'll be using it.

Then I will have clomid+pregnol+kessar/nolvadex in pct.

Anyway guys any help on IGF and my cycle plans, please need some help.

hi hulk. how many cycles have you done before. whats your stats. height weight bodyfat. why do you say spot injections wont work.

You will inject 50mcg IGF-1 LR3 per calf on those days that you trained them. Wait 45min after training before injecting.

Go for enanthate, the sustanon is 54 days wait before pct, test e is 30-36 and hurts MUCH less. And get PGW.

Didn't say spot injections wouldn't work... That's the question I'm asking is if they will work..

Thanks for replies.

Admin, this will work to build my calves... IGF 1 is the fastest acting IGF right? Very expensive though?
What kind of difference can one expect from this in the calves... My calves are small... Really bashing them at the gym but need to get them much bigger than they are... Can't deal with them anymore. I am doing calves 3 times a week. How many IUs would 50mcg of IGf 1 be?

I am 1.83m tall. Body fat I'd say is not more than 14% but honestly done know at all... Look at my pic. That's to get idea. I'm a lean guy but I'm not as lean as that now...

Gorilla, only reason I opted for sus is because it has the test prop in so will take effect quickly. Won't test enan take longer... Have a look at cycle plan again... I'm in week 4 now... Week 5 I start with tritren. Then need to switch test. Then I'll run the tritren and test for 10 weeks. So we looking at a 14 week cycle. Not to long? Then I'll bridge with winnie if I feel it necessary. This not a very long cycle... To long?

Steroid site injctions only work temporarily by increasing inflammation at the site and the oil particles in the injection siting between the nuscle fibres allows the muscle to look much bigger. When the oil dissipates the size will too...but...

There is a way to do this correctly but it takes a lot of time....

Muscles have a sheath surrounding them called fascia which also allow the muscle to grow to a certian size thus bigger fascia = bigger muscle. Think of it like a balloon being blown up in a metal can...the balloon will only get as big as the can, but if you make the can bigger, the balloon can go bigger.

It takes like 3 months of overloading oil based steroids or oil into the muscle fibre at high volume to stretch out the initial fascia. it then takes another 3-6 months of maintenance injections to allow that stretch to set and stay there.

The best site injection stack is IGF and PGF2a...hurts like hell and you are sick as a dog while on it...but it works

@ admin would this be subcutaneously or would you do it intramuscular. Thanks

David.biohazard wrote: @ admin would this be subcutaneously or would you do it intramuscular. Thanks

Intramuscular

By the way, Liquid-Pharma IGF-1 LR3 will be available in less than a week.

They sell 10x 100mcg vials per kit. The 1mg vials are considerably cheaper, but then you need Acetic Acid solution and the 1mg vials spoil very quickly, so you always loose. Best to get the 100mcg vials.

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I've now had a nice explaination on the LP IGF now I'm looking for answers.
How affective will this product be during off cycle with a good diet to increase certain sites?

vega5 wrote: I've now had a nice explaination on the LP IGF now I'm looking for answers.
How affective will this product be during off cycle with a good diet to increase certain sites?

Initial gains are slow if you do not use a steroid like testosterone because with IGF's cell hyperplasia you will have cells multiplying but stay small initially. But as soon as you combine IGF-1 and HGH's hyperplasia (cell multiplying) with AAS' hypertrophy (cell growth) you get more cells that also increase in size thus some great gains.

Fok, does my babbling even makes sense?

EDIT: Let me try again. IGF-1 will cause hyperplasia or multiplying of cells where AAS will cause hypertrophy or enlargement of cells. When combining hyperplasia with hypertrophy you get more muscle cells that increase in size more rapidly.

Let me rephrase my question to encourage a simpler answer.

Will I waste money when taking it alone off cycle?

vega5 wrote: Let me rephrase my question to encourage a simpler answer.

Will I waste money when taking it alone off cycle?

Nope, both DJ and myself are only taking HGH and IGF-1 at the moment and it makes a great bridge between cycles.

If you want extreme mass, then IGF-1 + MGF + Insulin + T3 is a must, but it's no waste to use IGF-1 on it's own.

Admin thanks for the help!

So I can add the IGF 1 to my cycle now and use site injection in calves and legs perhaps... Then I'll get some good growth in both. Obviously this will be supplemented with a good diet and training. You said 50mcg into each site that I'm looking to grow (lagging parts) but just on those training days.

Not asking price as that's forbidden but is LP IGF 1 affordable?

Last question please let me know if my cycle looks ok. Any recommendations? Thanks admin and every1 else!

Hulk#12 wrote: Admin thanks for the help!

So I can add the IGF 1 to my cycle now and use site injection in calves and legs perhaps... Then I'll get some good growth in both. Obviously this will be supplemented with a good diet and training. You said 50mcg into each site that I'm looking to grow (lagging parts) but just on those training days.

Not asking price as that's forbidden but is LP IGF 1 affordable?

Last question please let me know if my cycle looks ok. Any recommendations? Thanks admin and every1 else!

Your cycle looks fine and I'm sure you should have some decent size increases, but just be patient with peptides causing hyperplasia as the results are not always apparent immediately.

Use 50mcg per calf on the days you trained them, but wait 45min after training to do the IM injection. 2-3 times per week is enough and using more than that will not yield more results. High protein intake after training is important.

You can contact me for the prices on the IGF-1 prices.

Thanks admin you a BOSS appreciate all the help! I will try contact you. Don't think it will work on my phone but will try anyway. Otherwise I'll get onto laptop tomorrow.

How long should I use the IGF 1? That's my last question haha.

quote="admin" post=95244]They sell 10x 100mcg vials per kit. The 1mg vials are considerably cheaper, but then you need Acetic Acid solution and the 1mg vials spoil very quickly, so you always loose. Best to get the 100mcg vials.[/quote]


Admin I have a couple of questions please about the IGF1-LR3
Is acetic acid necessary for the 100mcg vials or for just the 1mg vials?
How long does the IGF1-LR3 last if you are using sterile water?
I called the chemists to ask if they had acetic acid and apparently this stuff is never stocked by any of them . Then I was checking and found that this is acetic acid. Can this stuff be used instead of sterile water?
Thanks

@ Admin

Ok so 50mcg in each muscle group worked, being left and right. Hitting calves, delts, traps, bi's and tri's 45min after training. Staying away from muscle groups in close relation to the gut.
1. So this will still help with growth in the areas not injected?
2. Also need a high protein drink at this time, do you consume after injecting or prior to?
3. Do you not need simple carbs on hand? Or is that dose not high enough to go hypo?
4. Is 5iu of hgh enough to compliment this stack?
5. What time space would you give between hgh and igf1 shots, minimum?
6. What in your opinion would be the better test to hit with this stack? Prop or Cyp?
7. How long can you run this stack? excluding test.
8. How long would you run hgh and igf1 before adding test?

Would love to hear your opinion on these and thanks in advance!!

David.biohazard wrote: @ Admin

Ok so 50mcg in each muscle group worked, being left and right. Hitting calves, delts, traps, bi's and tri's 45min after training. Staying away from muscle groups in close relation to the gut.
1. So this will still help with growth in the areas not injected?
2. Also need a high protein drink at this time, do you consume after injecting or prior to?
3. Do you not need simple carbs on hand? Or is that dose not high enough to go hypo?
4. Is 5iu of hgh enough to compliment this stack?
5. What time space would you give between hgh and igf1 shots, minimum?
6. What in your opinion would be the better test to hit with this stack? Prop or Cyp?
7. How long can you run this stack? excluding test.
8. How long would you run hgh and igf1 before adding test?

Would love to hear your opinion on these and thanks in advance!!

1: Yes
2: Prior
3: I've never heard of people going hypo on IGF and I've never experienced that.
4: Yes
5: Couple of hours preferably. Not really sure, but I use HGH in the mornings and IGF in the evenings after training.
6: Doesn't matter, test is test.
7: I will do 4-6 week cycles. Probably not that important to get it 100% correct anyway.
8: I will just them all at the same time.

i will create a log when i start my igf, i have been down with flu since i got home,so back at training on monday, and after 2 weeks in the gym i will be using the igf at 100mcg 3x a week,with 8iu hygetropin 3x a week (alternating days)

admin wrote:

David.biohazard wrote: @ Admin

Ok so 50mcg in each muscle group worked, being left and right. Hitting calves, delts, traps, bi's and tri's 45min after training. Staying away from muscle groups in close relation to the gut.
1. So this will still help with growth in the areas not injected?
2. Also need a high protein drink at this time, do you consume after injecting or prior to?
3. Do you not need simple carbs on hand? Or is that dose not high enough to go hypo?
4. Is 5iu of hgh enough to compliment this stack?
5. What time space would you give between hgh and igf1 shots, minimum?
6. What in your opinion would be the better test to hit with this stack? Prop or Cyp?
7. How long can you run this stack? excluding test.
8. How long would you run hgh and igf1 before adding test?

Would love to hear your opinion on these and thanks in advance!!

1: Yes
2: Prior
3: I've never heard of people going hypo on IGF and I've never experienced that.
4: Yes
5: Couple of hours preferably. Not really sure, but I use HGH in the mornings and IGF in the evenings after training.
6: Doesn't matter, test is test.
7: I will do 4-6 week cycles. Probably not that important to get it 100% correct anyway.
8: I will just them all at the same time.

What would the break in between cycles be if you don't use test and if you do use test, same as pct + length on?

DJ wrote: i will create a log when i start my igf, i have been down with flu since i got home,so back at training on monday, and after 2 weeks in the gym i will be using the igf at 100mcg 3x a week,with 8iu hygetropin 3x a week (alternating days)

Awesome, would love to know what kind of results you get bud. I'm very keen to try this cycle in the future. When I have cash again lol :silly:

David.biohazard wrote:

DJ wrote: i will create a log when i start my igf, i have been down with flu since i got home,so back at training on monday, and after 2 weeks in the gym i will be using the igf at 100mcg 3x a week,with 8iu hygetropin 3x a week (alternating days)

Awesome, would love to know what kind of results you get bud. I'm very keen to try this cycle in the future. When I have cash again lol :silly:

Not 100% topic related but what results can you expect in 6 weeks igf 300mcg ED? Without the gh, or is that not the way.? Sorry I know nothing about igf,gh,etc...