Pyroclasm's Cycle Suggestion and Cycle Log

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06 Feb 2013 15:54 #132755 by Pyroclasm

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That's cool hey I just hope you aren't using Axio or Nomad! :sick:

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06 Feb 2013 18:58 #132776 by manery

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Solid cycle, from what Ive read/heard npp sounds like a lot of fun! Post pics(no homo)

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07 Feb 2013 17:02 #132902 by Oupa

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you still owe me a news cafe shake Py ;-)

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07 Feb 2013 21:00 #132930 by Pyroclasm

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manery wrote: Solid cycle, from what Ive read/heard npp sounds like a lot of fun! Post pics(no homo)

Strength gains are rediculous and I am growing like a twelve year old! I will post pics once I have lost a bit more fat. That way you can see my muscle development a lot better and I won't feel like such a fatty.

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07 Feb 2013 21:01 #132932 by Pyroclasm

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Oupa wrote: you still owe me a news cafe shake Py

News cafe shake? As in a Long Island Iced Tea?

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07 Feb 2013 21:08 #132937 by p1et

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Week what are you on now? 5kg up yes?

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07 Feb 2013 21:23 #132942 by Pyroclasm

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Week 4 bud

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08 Feb 2013 08:27 #132960 by SV

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Goeie moer. 5kg in 4 weeks. You dont play around Pyro!

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11 Feb 2013 21:00 #133094 by Pyroclasm

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Week 5: 88.1kg

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11 Feb 2013 23:08 #133108 by manery

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Solid consistent gains man! Good stuff!

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17 Feb 2013 15:08 #133436 by Pyroclasm

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Weigh in week 6: 87.7kgs.

Had a great training week with five cardio sessions.
After a kak out session from DJ I decided to stop fucking around and man the fuck up! Eating is going great and no alcohol as yet. I am telling my mates I dropping alcohol for lent- that way if they give me shit I can just say they must respect my religious beliefs. Lol :lol:

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17 Feb 2013 15:32 #133439 by Adder

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Hey,

Are you using CABASSER on cycle?

Are you going to stop HCG at week 10? Will you include HCG in your PCT?

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17 Feb 2013 15:40 #133442 by Pyroclasm

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Hey bro!

Not using cabasser hey, but using Armidex @0.5mg E3D throughout cycle.

I am running the HCG @250iu EOD from week 4, all the way to PCT, and then I will stop when PCT begins. I will continue with the HCG with Nolva in my PCT, which is after the 7 days of Clomid.

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17 Feb 2013 16:21 #133443 by Adder

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could you do 500iu / week of HCG split 250iu twice a week? Why the EOD?

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17 Feb 2013 17:00 #133444 by Pyroclasm

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Yeah sure bro that's is what I normally advise people. I am doing 250iu EOD because I will be out of the country during PCT so I am not sure if I will be able to use it during PCT. I am just trying to use it all up basically.

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17 Feb 2013 17:11 #133445 by Adder

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Shot bro.

Mind just giving me a quick break down on the sides of the Yohimbine, Clen ? Are these harsh on the system?

Im practically doing the same cycle as you:

Supertest 320 (640mg per week. Pinned 0.5ml EOD) week 1-10
NPP (300mg per week. 0.7ml EOD) week 1-10
HCG @ 500iu from week 5 up until first day of PCT (7 days clomid) then will resume on HCG as per doctari PCT.

Thats it. Im trying to be as cost effective as possible? Is there anything NECESSARY or that i SHOULD get and add it on cycle if my goals are for LEAN MASS / To LEAN out and put on lean mass?

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17 Feb 2013 17:22 - 17 Feb 2013 17:22 #133448 by Pyroclasm

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No worries bro I don't mind at all! That seems pretty good to me. Remember to have Cabasser on hand in case of prolactin sides. If you run the HCG on cycle then you don't need to run it during PCT. What I do is I run the HCG during cycle @250iu twice a week, then add whatever is left of the HCG during PCT like Doctari says until it is finished.

I would add some Winstrol to your cycle because it gives great results and it's super cheap. Start 6 weeks before PCT and run it @50mg ED. Remember liver supps (NOT milk thistle) and joint support.

For our goal of lean mass and leaning out at the same damn time you need to get your diet and training 158% spot on!!

Why did you choose supertest instead of test prop? I see you are pinning EOD.

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17 Feb 2013 17:38 #133451 by Adder

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Ya, I'll run 500iu per week (500iu x 5 weeks) I should have used half of the HCG by the time PCT comes.

Q 1.) Should I run the HCG right until I start my first week of Clomid (PCT Doctori) ?

I calculated that I would need 4 vials of Test Prop apposed to 2 vials of Supertest.

Should I rather pay the extra for Prop?

I'll run winstrol from week 6 of my cycle (4 weeks till end of cycle, plus 2 weeks waiting IF I run prop).

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17 Feb 2013 20:09 #133455 by Pyroclasm

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Price wise the supertest is much better so if your main constraint is cash then use the ST and leave the Test Prop. Remember that ST contains the isocaproate ester so there is a very lengthy bridging period. That is also another big function for the Winstrol which is to keep you anabolic during this period.

You will definately finish the HCG before you start your pct.

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17 Feb 2013 20:15 #133457 by Pyroclasm

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I took some time to jot down my ideas on Clen in this thread- www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-suppl...nbuterol-help#101600 . That should do you well and if there is anything else you can just ask me. The Yohimbine sides you can hit the search button but the biggest one is nausea. It only happens when you use too much though. As a beginner start off with 10mg ED and gauge your tolerance level.

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17 Feb 2013 21:55 #133466 by p1et

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Pyroclasm wrote: Price wise the supertest is much better so if your main constraint is cash then use the ST and leave the Test Prop. Remember that ST contains the isocaproate ester so there is a very lengthy bridging period. That is also another big function for the Winstrol which is to keep you anabolic during this period.

You will definately finish the HCG before you start your pct.

Isocaproate half life is 4 days, its a medium ester. Time to pct with st is the same as cyp, cyp being the longest ester in st.

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17 Feb 2013 22:09 #133468 by Pyroclasm

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Thanx Prog. But why does it say in the articles section that the waiting time for supertest 320 is 18x3=54 days?

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17 Feb 2013 22:43 #133475 by Furk

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Pyroclasm wrote: Diet (DJ diet)
Medium Carbs
High Protein
Zero Fats

Why? Surely even on-cycle fats are important for proper function? Fats aren't just there for hormonal response, (implying good ones) they assist with numerous things.

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17 Feb 2013 22:54 #133478 by Pyroclasm

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I am still taking Omega 3 and 6 capsules ED bud. I can speculate, but for the exact reason you will need to ask DJ.

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18 Feb 2013 08:03 #133488 by p1et

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Pyroclasm wrote: Thanx Prog. But why does it say in the articles section that the waiting time for supertest 320 is 18x3=54 days?

Im not sure why they have wating period at 54 days but does not make sense. Might just be a fault or out dated information.

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