2nd Cycle Advise

Hey guys, hope all is well!

Wanted to know what u think of my second proper cycle.

Oh my history gear is, took dbols incorrectly as i didnt know what i was doing :silly: :whistle: , my first proper cycle is as per below, this was incorporated with my diet plan

Anavar - 40-60mg
Clen - 80mg a day
Yohimbine - 40 mg
Proviron - 40 mg
T3 tabs were added 4 weeks into the cycle - 50mg
Had some good gains and weight loss.

So basically my new proposed cycle was to follow the cycle Anavar & Proviron (Beginner cutting and strength cycle - Oral Only, as well as the pct.
A friends recommend added Tbol into this also, im also not to sure what the dosage would be.
So its Tbol, Anavar, Proviron.

My questions are, is this exremtly harsh on the liver? And will i be taking milk thistle daily with this cycle if i do decide on it.
OR do i just stick with the Anavar & Proviron?

Thanks for reading and responding!
Peace

why no TEST?

Hey Manery,

That sample cycle has no Test listed?

Add some test and deca, just make sure you research it first:p

@pr0gr3s1v3,thanks for that! but wont that be regarded as intermediatte cycle or something? I would still rgeard myself as a beginner, thats why i am proposing the beginner cutting/strength cycle.
Dont want anything to hectic/extreme right now, maybe in the future

Im just wondering on oral only cylces for now

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Add some test and deca, just make sure you research it first:p

- thie is very childish. Do not bring disagreements from other theads.

Kaged Muscle, disregard that. As for the rest, Changes:

Anavar - 60mg
Clen - 80mg a day (start at 40mcg and taper up by 20mcg e3d or when sides subside)
Yohimbine - 10-20mg.

To answer your Q: No, it wouldn't be too harsh on your liver. Both var and pro are mild. Pro has been used for long periods of time without raising liver val's too much. Milk thistle is fine.

Test addition: beneficial

Heretic47 wrote:

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Add some test and deca, just make sure you research it first:p

- thie is very childish. Do not bring disagreements from other theads.

Kaged Muscle, disregard that. As for the rest, Changes:

Anavar - 60mg
Clen - 80mg a day (start at 40mcg and taper up by 20mcg e3d or when sides subside)
Yohimbine - 10-20mg.

To answer your Q: No, it wouldn't be too harsh on your liver. Both var and pro are mild. Pro has been used for long periods of time without raising liver val's too much. Milk thistle is fine.

Test addition: beneficial

You chill out mkay:lol: was just kidding hence the:p face

@Heretic47, maybe i explained wrong...apologies.. but thanks for the replies

Below i gear i had on my first cycle..
Anavar - 40-60mg
Clen - 80mg a day
Yohimbine - 40 mg
Proviron - 40 mg
T3 tabs were added 4 weeks into the cycle - 50mg
Had some good gains and weight loss.

My next cycle i want is maybe Anavar & Proviron, and adding in Tbol.
That where i asked about being harsh on the liver etc

Tbol, Var and proviron is the next cycle im proposing and asking adviceabout.

stick to tbol or var with proviron and add test to the equation, instead of running 2 orals.

Kaged Muscle wrote: @Heretic47, maybe i explained wrong...apologies.. but thanks for the replies

Below i gear i had on my first cycle..
Anavar - 40-60mg
Clen - 80mg a day
Yohimbine - 40 mg
Proviron - 40 mg
T3 tabs were added 4 weeks into the cycle - 50mg
Had some good gains and weight loss.

My next cycle i want is maybe Anavar & Proviron, and adding in Tbol.
That where i asked about being harsh on the liver etc

Tbol, Var and proviron is the next cycle im proposing and asking adviceabout.

Aha, noticed that after. I'd stick to the suggested cycle. No need for the tbol imo. It should't be too harsh but I'd much rather stack an injectable with it. What you could add is some prop IF you want to add anything. I'd use var @ 60-80mg and keep prov dose the same range as the sample.

What did you gain/lose on your last cycle?

@manery ok cool, will decide which one to go with.


@heretic47, i lost a few kilos, forgot how much exactly..but was a decent amount...i picked up about 4kg's, thats was pretty decent going.

i see the next best thing to add is test....will research a bit more on this

sorry for the dumb question...
what would the test do if i add it to the cycle?
what kind of benefits...

i really have no knowledge of any injectables etc, how / when to use

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...oids/28-testosterone

Test is going to better your cycle in every aspect.

shot Manery...

what test would be recommended?
buddy at gym told me to maybe gor for Sustaplex325?

my test knowledge is minimum to non lol

It would be nice to run test prop with the anavar, but that will cal for eod injection protocol witch is a bitch for someone who is new to injectibles. Test E or test cyp would be ideal for a first timer.

wk 1-10 Test E/test cyp 500mg a week.
wk 1-8 anavar 60mg ed

or you could rethink this cycle and do the beginners bulking cycle with a clean diet and possibly achieve better results without spending as much cash as would be with the anavar. Up to you.

so the Test E / test cyp is only once a week injection i take it?

if i do decide on this, would the pct 1 be done?

so then it i will need the following
1 x Testaplex C200 ( really unsure how the mg/ml works)
3 x LP Anavar
1 x LP nolvadex
1 x LP clomid

would i need to add proviron? and milk thistle to be taken daily as well as 2-4 weeks after?

gonna go read up on the beginners bulking cycle.

btw dude, thanks a million for responding and giving the advise....truly appreciate it

some cool Karma for y!!!

no problem dude! Test E needs to be shot twice a week eg. 1ml monday, 1ml thursday. Test cyp can be shot once weekly but it would be optimal to shoot it twice a week to keep blood levels stable witch means less side effects. I havent heard of testplex c200 before, what lab makes it? but i would recommend you get your test E or C from PGW. Follow the cycle according to the spread sheet available on the site and you'll be perfect. I presume you'll be following a structured diet ?

Thanks for the karma had been stuck on 9 for a while!

Proviron is optional, use it if you can afford to. Use the milk thistle while your on the orals, but some people use it differently.

if i could give another karma i would lol

yes im currently following a proper diet....

mispelled....Testaplex C20, description is test cyp ( axio labs), so then 200mg/ml will be enough for the duration of the cycle?

where u referring to this cycle? www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/21-cycle-2 ,with that PCT
and then adding in the testE or C? once or twice weekly?
(if not this link, please add correct one)

So this what the cycle will look like
Week 1 -8 Anavar 60mg ( milk thistle with the orals)
Week 1-10 Test E/C 500mg
Proviron 40-60mg ( very optional)
PCT - clomid and nolvadex

This is the cycle i was referring to for a simple first cycle ---> www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

But you can still do the anavar if you like, but i would run it from week 7 till 15 because you have to wait 36 days after your last shot for the test to clear your system before you start pct.

Eg

1-10 test
7-15 anavar

pct starts day after last anavar tab.

If I may add...

If you are going to do the beginner bulking cycle, also add HCG to your PCT, as mentioned in the sample cycle, seeing you will be running test for a while, and need to get natural test production up.

thanks Santa! Im currently looking at the cycle and reading all the info on it.

It looks like i will prob be doing test/var cycle, as mentioned by manery.

week1-10 - test
week 7-15 - anavar ( would 60mg a day be fine)

pct starts day after last anavar tab. (nolva / clomid)

can anyone advise how i would use the milk thiste? IF its needed tho
will it be while on the var and during the pct?

That is a good cycle to start of with, I would however still include HCG in PCT, seeing you are running test for 10 weeks.
Regarding the milk thistle, it is a good idea to start taking them a week or two beforehand, and right through cycle, bridge, PCT, and then some...