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15 May 2013 10:02 - 15 May 2013 10:03 #138531 by MRfeathers
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yo guys

planning my second cycle, here are the 2 options im considering.

12-14 weeks test prop, test E and proviron, winstrol bridge

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12 weeks prop and NPP, winstrol.

its a tough choice, i like the 1st option because it will be cheaper and i had great results from my 1st cycle, but on the other hand ive heard great things about NPP.

should i save the NPP for my 3rd cycle or just go for it?

welcome all your comments and suggestions
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15 May 2013 10:05 #138532 by p1et
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Are you able to get cabaser from your supplier? This is one of the things that made me skip it as i cant.

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15 May 2013 10:10 #138534 by MRfeathers
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yeah i can get anything i need
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15 May 2013 10:13 #138536 by Oupa
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Test prop 1 - 12
NPP 1 - 12
Proviron 1 - 14
Winstrol 10 - 14

PCT 2 days after last Winny.

(NPP is the shit bud ;) )

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15 May 2013 10:15 #138538 by MRfeathers
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so i hear. im definitely going to try it. either now or early next year
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15 May 2013 10:21 #138541 by Oupa
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Save up a couple of bux to add in npp.

Run Prop / Npp and bridge winny (your option 2)

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15 May 2013 10:23 #138542 by MRfeathers
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more than just a couple bucks. then i need cabaser and more prop
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15 May 2013 10:24 #138543 by PoisonedPulse
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I also like the npp idea bud, I had great results with it in my last cycle, I would def recommend it!

You say you like the first idea because of finances (being cheaper) ... But to save cost with npp cycle, why not opt for test enanthate instead of prop?

To get an actual decent dose of prop, you need a stupid amount if vials for a decent length cycle, which just isn't cheap,


1-12 test en 600mg pw
1-12 npp 300mg pw
12-16 winny/proviron 50/60.mg respectively

Then pct 3 ...
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15 May 2013 10:27 #138546 by MRfeathers
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yeah exactly what i meant, ill need way more prop because id have to run it at a higher dose than the NPP.

hmm enanthate is something to consider, it will save me quite a bit.

like ive told you im saving for a bike but i could spare some extra cash for the NPP and stay home on friday nights ;)
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15 May 2013 10:40 #138557 by PoisonedPulse
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It is a lot cheaper, 2ml enanthate vs 6 ml prop a week, a hefty saving,

As per our chat, get back into training once your hand is sorted and your diet, and reconsider from there? Muscle memory could just be the answer right now, ? 2 birds with one stone, back to where you used to be, and have moola for the bike B)

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15 May 2013 10:48 #138559 by MRfeathers
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very true

i think i should take it step by step and see where im at in the next 2 or 3 months. ive tried to start training again but its far too soon. i cant make a closed fist yet so my grip is very weak. but being back in the gym helps me mentally, more than anything else.


thanks for the sound advice PP and Oupa
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15 May 2013 10:58 #138561 by manery
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I would also go with the npp combo but there is nothing wrong with plain old Test for a second cycle, I grew a decent amount off just 7 weeks of Prop for my 2nd cycle. I would go with the Test E if you go the npp route as PP suggested, Much cheaper.

What bike are you looking to get boet? I need to send mine in for repairs, was in crash last Monday!
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15 May 2013 11:03 #138562 by MRfeathers
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ive decided to do a short little 6-8 week prop cycle when i get back in the gym. just to get me where i used to be. then ill give the NPP a shot when im at my peak again.

Getting a 2010/ 2011 cbr 600rr at the end of September, been saving forever!

shit are you okay mate? what bike you have?
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15 May 2013 11:03 #138563 by Mr T
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The cycle that PP proposed is what im thinking about doing for a second cycle,

Do you guys think 300mg pw NPP is enough for a first time user cos i keep reading 400mg?

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15 May 2013 11:06 #138565 by MRfeathers
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PP started with 300mg and went up to 450. how many vials of prop are you buying? like 10?
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15 May 2013 11:06 #138566 by PoisonedPulse
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Mr T wrote: The cycle that PP proposed is what im thinking about doing for a second cycle,

Do you guys think 300mg pw NPP is enough for a first time user cos i keep reading 400mg?


Sorry for the jack feathers,

But mr t, I started at 300mg, I think around at 5 weeks I upped it to 450 mg and found the sweet spot :)
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15 May 2013 11:07 #138567 by MRfeathers
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feel free guys. we're all talking about the same thing
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15 May 2013 11:09 #138568 by Oupa
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My NPP sweetspot is also 450mg pw. Test however is 200mg prop eod.

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15 May 2013 11:16 - 15 May 2013 11:19 #138571 by Mr T
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okay cool thanks guys!

I think starting at a lower dose is definitely a good idea especially if its somebody's first time using a particular compound

ADD:@feathers no ill be using testen 300 the price of prop is insane to run a decent dose for 12 weeks, ill need at least two promotions before i consider that lol
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15 May 2013 11:19 #138574 by MRfeathers
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yeah definitely. you're going to need a lot of prop though, an AI and something for prolactin. not going to be cheap
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15 May 2013 11:23 #138575 by Mr T
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MRfeathers wrote: yeah definitely. you're going to need a lot of prop though, an AI and something for prolactin. not going to be cheap


Agreed ill only use prop if i REALLY suffer with recovery from the testcyp im on now, if recovery is decent then i dont see the need ill just move onto 2ml testen pw for the second cycle run with NPP
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15 May 2013 11:25 #138577 by manery
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Feathers: Yeah I'm alright haven't been able to train legs because of this fat hematomen on my leg/ankle, bikes fucked tho. It is a 220 pulsar.. nothing special. CBR 600 is a great bike I wouldn't buy anything bigger, no need to unless your a complete speed junkie :P
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15 May 2013 11:26 #138579 by CHAPEL
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Jees like clicked lock on this stupid touch screen. What are your stats if you dont mind me asking.
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15 May 2013 11:29 #138581 by MRfeathers
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1.76m tall
87kgs
guesstimate around 18-20% BF (top 2 abs are showing)
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15 May 2013 11:31 #138582 by Oupa
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manery wrote: I wouldn't buy anything bigger, no need to unless your a complete speed junkie :P


Not always for speed junkies, but for bigger boyz its comfy ;)

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