Planning my first cycle on Clen,Anavar and Winni.

Hi Guys,

This is my first cycle planning, plan to run for 7 weeks, starting Nov 10.
My stats:
BF% - 10%
Weight - 83Kg
Height - 176cm
Sex - Male

My background: I have been a competetive sportsman all my life, rugby, cucling,freediving and many other sports. I train 6 days a week, consisting of 1.5hrs of cardio in the morning and 1.5hrs of weight training in the afternoon, some days my cardio is 3-4hrs a day.

My diet is clean with no sugars or artificial sweeteners at all. Low fat milk, no coffee, If I do have, it would be decaff.This is not just for diet purposes, but I have been living without sugars,full cream milk and margarines for months now, just a choice of lifestyle. I drink 100%whey mixed with some BCAA's and L-Glutamine right after a workout, in the morning and afternoon, and a banana right after afternoon workout tablespoon of peanut butter for pre-workout, and a tablespoon of peanut butter and ten almonds just before bedtime.
My vitamin intake every day consists of 1 tablet of each:
Vitamin C-1000mg, Centrum Complete, Calmag,B6+Zinc combo,Iron,400I.U. Vit E,1000I.U.vit A, Omega 3,6,9 and Cayenne and milk thistle. Seeing that I do a lot of cardio, I want to get max intake of each vitamin per day to avoid getting sick, which I never do since I drink all these vitamins(flu and colds).

My Gear:
Clenbuterol,Anavar,Winni and proviron.

Proposed 7 week cycle looks like this:
-Clenbuterol(oral) for 4 weeks, first week @ 40 mg per day, 2nd week @ 80mg per day.Take off week 3 and 4. Week 5 @ 120mg per day and week 6 also @ 120mg per day.
-Anavar(Oral) for 6 weeks. Week 1 & 2 @ 40mg per day. Week 3 & 4 @ 60mg per day. Week 5 & 6 @ 40mg per day(divided it like this so two boxes would just be enough)
-Winni(injectable)for 7 weeks, starting off with 50mg/eod for first week. Week 2,3 and 4 @ 75mg/eod.Week 5 and 6 @ 100mg/eod and week 7 @ 50mg/eod(divided it like this so two bottles would just be enough)
-Proviron for 7 weeks @ 2 tabs per day throughout the 7 weeks.

Seeing that I drink Milk Thistle every day, I will bring in some Essentialle tabs for the winni a week before I start cycle throughout and +- 20 days post.

Questions: I am wondering if I must push up my carb intake seeing that I do lots of cardio.I lost lots of muscle mass last year because I didn't take in enough proteien, I don't want to make this mistake again.
Next question: Should I take Nolva or Clomid?, or would proviron be enough?

My Goal: To be lean, hard and ripped. I don't want to put on much muscle, just great def.

Guys your input and comments would be greatly appreciated.

RIP joints.. Where did you get the idea for that cycle? Please, if you go through with it, which I suspect you will, take the flipping winny out and just do var and proviron, that way when you bend to pick up your cat your back, knees and hips wont break and release puffs of dust.

Look guys do use anavar and winny together for contest prep but you will feel crap and they are both extremely bad for your lipids and both are liver toxic. Not just the winny. You are not going for a trophy at the end of this cycle so don't put your body through this. Your results will not stay post cycle. Within about 2 weeks you will lose the hard and dry look anyway. With that diet you won't gain much muscle so it will be quite a waste of a cycle.

Peanut butter preworkout -> No. Your pre and post workout meals are the most important of the day and even more so on cycle. You need to load with fuel before your workout which means decent amount of carbs and some protein, and then you need fast acting carbs post workout along with your protein to replenish glycogen. When you're on steroids you can take in more carbs. It's all about the timing.

Go read the articles sect basic cycles there is a anavar prov cycle with PCT...and the diet stickies ......

hi guys thanks for the input. I just want to make one thing clear. I have joined the forum to get help from guys like you, so please just try and be patient and offer some help instead of only remarks, elaborate on what is wrong and why? Otherwise guys like myself will never learn. And I have been studying on almost every anabolic website there is. MA thanks for your advice it really means a lot coming from you.
I know the winni is hard on one's liver, that is why I came up with the Essentialle & milk thistle.There is a lot of cycles with winni, does that mean my combination is wrong?

Chapel here is a site where I saw a similar cycle but that one is oral only. www.steroid-use.com/cycles/anavar-cycles/

No one noticed that he wants to take a two week break from Clen and then do 120mcg on the first day? Bud if your Clenbuterol is legit YOU ARE GOING TO DIE from cardiac something!

stompie1 wrote: Chapel here is a site where I saw a similar cycle but that one is oral only. www.steroid-use.com/cycles/anavar-cycles/

That site is one big Facepalm! Gonna bookmark it and go there every time I need to lighten my mood. Bud please only listen to us! We will help you gladly just promise me you won't take the Clen!

Stompie doen die anavar en proviron cycle wat op die site is. Kyk op die forum vir die "everything you need to know about clenbutrol" en lees dit.

Guys thank you again, Pyro I promise I won't do the clen that way. I have read your article on clen. If you say that site is a joke, I believe you, I won't visit it again. Pyro, your opinion which cycle would you suggest, doing your clen cycle that you have posted with Anavar and Proviron? Please give me your input.

Sure bro. I.m.o oral only cycles are for girly men. But if I had to do one it would be the Anavar and Proviron sample cycle with Clen and Yohimbine. Of course all of those 4 compounds together struggle to stand up to just testosterone alone and the side effects are MUCH worse than the test. So happy you found us before you went and killed yourself! Nobody here wants to see you get hurt.

Pyro are you suggesting rather a test cyponate, read that test ethanate not for cutting(water retention) with PCT 2?

Bud please stop reading the Huisgenoot! Test Cyp and Test-En is like sprite and lemonade it's basically the same shit. If anything the Test-Cyp has a slightly longer carbon chain which means if anything you will hold more water from the Test-Cyp. I would definately suggest a Test-En / Cyp cycle for you once you have done your homework properly. Apologies for the comment but you have to understand it is taking every ounce of me not to be sarcastic as hell right now. Sorry. The biggest thing about using Test is that you could grow your own titties if you are genetically prone to it. So you will need a compound called an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) to stop this. This site has plenty of info my dude and you can ask at any time if you don't understand something we will help you gladly.

You are a true gentleman, thanks for your advice.

Hi bud,

I'm also pretty new am busy with my second cycle- I want the same results as you, if time is not an issue- I would do the following as this is what was advised to me from these sarcastic buggers, but in saying this they are awesome. IMO I would consider;
Week 1-12 Test e @ 500 mg/ week
Week 1-12 proviron @ 40 mg/ day split am and pm
Week 8- 16 anavar @ 60mg/ day split
I added primo in as well and my results are already great this is my 6th week no sides, and nice safe substances, read up under the various articles regarding these substances. They are amongst the safest around.
Like I said if you can start soon you will be almost ready by December.
Most importantly is your diet bud.
Pct 2
Don't use milk thistle during course essential should be used.
And have pyro sort out your diet he is the bomb.

Herbst, thank you very much, this looks great, can you please elaborate more on the primo, I was looking into it as well, can you advise me on the dosages, I have read that you need to take primo for long periods to get results also high dosages, what do you say?

@Herbst and Stompie: Boys please have a read here . The thread is similar to this one and I give my thoughts on Primo on your first cycle.

I agree with Pyro. The only thing you'll gain from Primo in your first couple of cycles is a broken wallet, Test and an oral is all you need

Rhino wrote: I agree with Pyro. The only thing you'll gain from Primo in your first couple of cycles is a broken wallet, Test and an oral is all you need

thanks rhino and pyro- but as I had said- it has been great and IMO, I just
Wanted the guy to know his various options. For me it has been great and I have seen great results thus far- you guys can take it from here.

Did read it, and yes this is my second cycle, so for a first cycle- test e and proviron with anavar is great. Duly noted chaps.
@stompie- that should clear it up for you- the phrase less is more comes in here at your first course, also you can see how you react.
Be patient to plan this first golden course and these guys will have your best interests at heart guaranteed.

Guys I thank you all for you patience and advice. I am going back to the drawing board and plan the cycle and post it again if you guys don't mind.

Thanks again all.