TheBarbellBarbarian's Clen Cycle Log

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04 Sep 2013 17:31 #149683 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Hey guys

So I'll be doing a cycle log of my clen cycle!
Diet and training sorted!(Discussed it on the forum a while ago)

I'll be using Oraltec Clenbuterol and also Betasleep before bed.
I'll start off with 20mcg for the first 2 days and then follow the schedule Pyro posted.

Day 1-4: 40mcg ED
Day 5-8: 60mcg ED
Day 9-12: 80mcg ED
Day 13-16: 100mcg ED
Day 17-40: 100-120mcg ED
With Betasleep from start to finish @2 tabs before bed.

I'll keep you guys posted with the results and my experience :)

Comments are welcome ;)

Starting weight:92kg
Bodyfat:±15%

Will also post some measurements later :)

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04 Sep 2013 22:53 #149722 by Pyroclasm
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Nice one bud any cycle log has potential. All the best and keep us updated!

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05 Sep 2013 08:08 #149744 by Fakey_AK
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Oooh cutting time for those beach bodies :P

Get some taurine for cramps, I personally cramp up on clen badly and taurine helps a lot.

Also looking forward to see if the clen still works fully after 3 weeks. As i have found personally it doesn't or isn't as potent after 3 weeks even if I take ketofin or betasleep the whole time. So curious to see other people's experience regarding that.

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05 Sep 2013 14:55 #149786 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Haha yeah the beach body ;)

Took my first dose today,didn't feel any tremors or weird feeling so I'm glad,I actually felt really energised,probably all the excitement haha :P,will see how the sides progress as I up the dosage.

And thanks @Fakey I'll get some taurine,ain't nobody got time for cramps!

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05 Sep 2013 15:02 #149788 by Oupa
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If you hydrate regularly you shouldn't have cramp issues. Don't up the dosage yet, keep to your planned schedule.

And remember, never measure effectiveness of dosage or/and substances with side effects.

Good luck

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05 Sep 2013 15:47 #149792 by Fakey_AK
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Oupa wrote: If you hydrate regularly you shouldn't have cramp issues. Don't up the dosage yet, keep to your planned schedule.

And remember, never measure effectiveness of dosage or/and substances with side effects.

Good luck

lol not my body, even on 4-5l a day of water a day I still cramped up, only thing that helped was the taurine, weird but interesting how are bodies respond to compounds. I also noticed for me personally, if I go over 80mcg's by blood pressure climbs but if I keep it at 80mcg its ok. But it does work wonders when combined with a good diet.

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05 Sep 2013 15:50 #149794 by Oupa
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80mcg clen is also max for me.

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06 Sep 2013 19:40 #149881 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Hey Guys

All still going good :)

Will be starting with the 40mcg tomorrow!

Just wanted to know if it's still fine if I train very intense during my weight sessions?
Like pushing my heartrate up and stuff?Just wondering if it's allowed haha.
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06 Sep 2013 22:44 #149898 by Pyroclasm
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Yeah sure bud. Just remember that if you have heart palpitations on Clen call it a day and DONT train through it.

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07 Sep 2013 10:48 #149923 by jaksinsane
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Good luck bud :) hope you get shredded as f#ck!;):P

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07 Sep 2013 16:58 #149941 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Measurements this morning:

Chest:108cm(lats out)

Thighs:65cm

Waist:90cm(just below belly button)

Arms:41cm(flexed)

Most of my fat is around my waist.

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11 Sep 2013 07:13 #150411 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Hey guys

All going good :)

Will be starting with 60mcg today.

Felt a bit jittery with 40mcg but nothing to complain about ;)

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11 Sep 2013 14:51 #150525 by jackrussel
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Where do you get betasleep and ketotifen from?

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11 Sep 2013 14:59 #150529 by mike123
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Any / most chemist ..over the counter

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12 Sep 2013 05:29 #150612 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Weighed in at 90.5kg this morning

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12 Sep 2013 07:47 #150618 by Pyroclasm
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Good. Keep us posted on your side effects and your emotions bud! :)

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12 Sep 2013 15:35 #150730 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Update on my experience will clen :)

Day 2 of 60mcg and I feel great,no sides actually,the tremors are minor and they are actually cool.
No headaches or heart palpitations.
I really feel energised and I'm killing it in the gym.

I sometimes break out in a sweat from just getting out of bed lol.
Also sleeping like a baby with betasleep and I wake up refreshed in the mornings.

Really enjoying my experience with clen and the results so far are great.
Vascularity also increasing everyday ;)

Will post some pictures next week so u guys can see the progress :)

Stay tuned
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19 Sep 2013 18:38 #151683 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Hey Guys

Update on the clen

Took my first dose of 100mcg,had mild jitters but nothing hectic.
Sweating a lot lately but nothing to complain about.

No sides thus far(headaches,palpitations,insomnia etc.)

Weighed in this morning at 90.5kg which is odd because I'm losing centimetres and getting more defined.
Any reason for this?

Diet going great,strict as hell,training intense and getting my cardio in.

Measurements will be up on Saturday.

I might add that my concentration in class has improved,marks too for a reason haha. :P

Any feedback welcome!

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19 Sep 2013 19:03 #151689 by Pyroclasm
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You are gaining muscle while losing fat my dude. Awesome!

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19 Sep 2013 19:23 #151691 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Is it still possible after over a year of serious lifting?
Also on a calorie deficit?

Here's my diet again:

Meal 1: 5whites, 2 whole eggs, 100g raw oats/all bran flakes
Meal 2: 150g chicken breast, 30g nuts
Meal 3: 150g chicken breast, 1 cup broccoli
Meal 4: 150g chicken breast,1 cup brown rice
PWO:40g whey,40g waxy maize
Meal 5: 200g chicken breast, 1 cup broccoli
Pre bed: 2 Tablespoon of natural, unsweetened peanut butter.

I dropped the PWO carbs this week.Should I keep it PWO or is it fine if I drop it?

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19 Sep 2013 19:29 #151692 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Should I maybe have a mod-high carb week just to kickstart my metabolism again,been mod-low carb for just over a month now so maybe my body is used to it haha.

Any suggestions? Diet change etc.

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19 Sep 2013 20:02 #151694 by Muscleaddict
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Rather have less oats for breakfast than drop post workout carbs. That's the most important time to get carbs in and when insulin sensitivity is at its best.
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19 Sep 2013 20:05 #151695 by Muscleaddict
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Keep doing what you're doing until it stops working. Seems like it's working well. Maybe a high carb day, but not a week!

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19 Sep 2013 20:54 #151699 by Pyroclasm
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Don't you dare change anything!

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20 Sep 2013 19:42 #151804 by TheBarbellBarbarian
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Haha thanks Pyro and MA

I'll add the PWO carbs again and I'll keep following this diet,it is working so why change. ;)

Measurements will be up tomorrow

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