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28 Oct 2013 20:21 #155077 by Lean Machine
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Hey guys..new to this site but not new to weight lifting. . So would really appreciate your help. ..

This is my second cycle. . First one was exactly a year ago... goal is to gain and keep around 10-12 kg and stay lean and hard. ..
My body type is typically Ectomorphic with a really high metabolism, and I am lean already 4.1% BF...
Diet seems to be decent as I try to eat around 500-800 more calories than I need everyday, also try to get in good healthy meals


Recently started a test cyp cycle and it looks like this

Week 1-10: Test Cyp 250mg/ml every 3rd day (2x/week)
Week 1-4: Dianabol 40mg ED
Weeks10 or 11 Winstrol Oral up to PCT

PCT : Nolva / Clomid... dealer rates HCG not needed due to mild cycle

PS: Did not post stats and diet as I didn't think it was relevant to my questions. ..
Also supplement with milk thistle, flaxseed oil, cod-liver oil n 2x multi-vits a day

Questions:

I am 2 and a half weeks into my cycle

1) been experiencing low libido(weak erections, is this caused by aromatisation of the test? I know I'm not using an AI but I took the same cycle before and didn't have any problems without the AI...so if it is due to increased Estrogen, would proviron help? As Adex is very expensive, also my dealer can't get Adex...

2) when is the best time to start the winstrol and what dosages should it be run at?

3) is hcg also needed for pct?

4) can I use kessar on cycle to prevent the low libido problems?

5) can the dbol of test also cause a bit of clear penile discharge?

Thanks guys help will be much appreciated...

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28 Oct 2013 21:20 - 28 Oct 2013 21:24 #155081 by Oupa
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Hi and welcome

Good cycle, but there is a few things that doesn't make sense. Lets skip that for now.

As for your questions...

1. Read this Proviron

2. Recommendation is to start Winny at week 8 if you run test for 10 weeks. 30mg - 50mg ED. (split dosages every 8 hours) 20/20/10 if 50mg. 10/10/10 if using 30mg.....

3. Yes if you add Winstrol. Recommended use in cycle ( also increase libido )

4. No. Increased testosterone doesn't always mean increased libido. Aromasin + HCG should give your libido a boost.

5. Yes, sometimes that happens.
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29 Oct 2013 01:44 #155094 by Lean Machine
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Not sure if my previous message sent. .. signal was messed up... but thanks so much for helping me out, really appreciate it. ..

The Adex is a bit too costly so I'll definitely give the proviron a try...
Also how long should I run the winny for?
Sorry for being a real pain, but I have one more question...ive been experiencing really bad pain when I inject into my glut, so I had injected into my shoulder n felt no pain at all... will this make a difference in the effectiveness of the Test? Or does it not matter?

Thanks again!!

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29 Oct 2013 07:49 #155109 by mike123
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Any cycle containing test needs HCG in the PCT.....Winny normally about 6 weeks if u can handle then 8 max...your bridge is 36 days which is 5 weeks ...apparently it does make a diff when u inject in the shoulder...Glut is the less / no pain for me ??? try your upper leg ?

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29 Oct 2013 08:11 #155117 by Oupa
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Lean Machine wrote: I had injected into my shoulder n felt no pain at all... will this make a difference in the effectiveness of the Test? Or does it not matter?

Thanks again!!


Lean Machine read below.

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29 Oct 2013 09:24 #155140 by Pyroclasm
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mike123 wrote: Winny normally about 6 weeks if u can handle then 8 max...


Mike suggesting someone use Winstrol for 8 weeks is dangerous advice. Please don´t bud.

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29 Oct 2013 10:18 #155149 by mike123
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Pyroclasm wrote:

mike123 wrote: Winny normally about 6 weeks if u can handle then 8 max...


Mike suggesting someone use Winstrol for 8 weeks is dangerous advice. Please don´t bud.


Ja ok dont go over 6 weeks ...use liver sups and monitor yourself B)

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29 Oct 2013 10:21 #155151 by manery
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Even 6 weeks of winstrol is pushing it IMO.

"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath

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29 Oct 2013 10:27 #155152 by mike123
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Done plenty of 6 week bridges ...depends on how tough your system is.. LOL

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29 Oct 2013 10:40 #155155 by Lean Machine
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Okay shot guys.... il start out with 4-5 weeks to be safe... if im all good il go to 6, but no more than that....

And with the injection site, il try out upper leg...pain in glut used to get so bad that I couldn't even walk at times, n prevented me from training. .. don't get how the site can make a difference though?

Thanks for all the help guys

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29 Oct 2013 10:58 #155157 by mike123
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yep just monitor yourself winnie I normally run at 5 to 7 weeks also depends weather u use 30 mg or 50 mg .....that injection could be virgin muscle which u will experiance with legs as well ....shot

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29 Oct 2013 11:00 #155159 by Oupa
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manery wrote: Even 6 weeks of winstrol is pushing it IMO.


I dont agree, why do you say that ?

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29 Oct 2013 21:24 #155267 by manery
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Winny is a toxic oral, very comparable to dbol in toxicty. You dont see anyone running dbol for more then 4 weeks and thats usually at 30-40mg compared 50mg winny. I dunno, its all about if you can handle it and if you take the necessary precautions like absolutely no alcohol consumption, taking your liver support and drinking plenty water (atleast 4 litres a day). This is just my opinion, my body doesn't agree with orals at all :P. Ive seen dudes get ripped to shreds from 4 weeks of winny at 50mg ED during their bridge ;)

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31 Oct 2013 11:11 #155412 by Lean Machine
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Okay thanks for all the info guys...ive decided to go with anavar instead of the winnt...ive reaf more positive things about it, any comments? Also what should the dosage be like?

3rd week overon my cycle, first two weeks went great, had gained about 2 kg strength increase n felt greatt... this week was absolutely shit, felt like shit, lost a kg as well. ..
Could this be that I need to eat more? (Im still eating about the same that I ate in the first two weeks
Opened upmy ssecond bottle of dbol this week- could it be cuz the dbol is shit? It's Nomad Labs... the guy couldn't get any oraltec, just those blue hearts but they looked a bit dodgy...

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31 Oct 2013 12:47 - 31 Oct 2013 12:49 #155436 by mike123
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Ok firstly most will say Nomad is kak unreliable underdosed ect ect so either that or u are getting test flu ...take a lot of vit c if that doesnt help and u do get flu then antibis at the doc ...stop training and keep cycle going B)
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31 Oct 2013 22:44 #155524 by Lean Machine
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Thanks. .I don'tthink it's test flu though. .. I'm not really feeling sick...I just feel very lazy n dow, loss of appetite, muscles feel very very soft, losing weight. ..Stress maybe?
If not that then I'm convinced its the nomad...any other rrecommendations for other good labs that make dbol?
My test cyp is Oraltec

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01 Nov 2013 12:06 #155561 by mike123
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Liquid pharm ...LP

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02 Nov 2013 14:56 - 02 Nov 2013 15:05 #155649 by Lean Machine
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Thanks....some guytried to sell me 500 Alpha Pharm Anavar pills 50mgeach gor ***. .. seemed a bit ddodge...
Any good brands for oral anavar?
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02 Nov 2013 15:06 - 02 Nov 2013 15:08 #155653 by Oupa
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Don't discuss prices.

LP has 20mg Var tabs, works like a bom.


PS - Alpha Pharma doesnt make 50mg Tabs, they make 10mg Var tabs.
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02 Nov 2013 16:57 #155657 by Lean Machine
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Sorry about that

Okay thanks I'll try get since if that, doubt my dealer can get that ytype though. ..
What should dosages be like? If I had to run it in place of winny near the end of my cycle?

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02 Nov 2013 18:55 #155658 by Oupa
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Total of 6-8 weeks 60-80mg split dose morning / evening.

Try Contact about Liquid Pharma products, maybe they can be of assistance and point you in the right direction.

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02 Nov 2013 19:14 #155662 by Lean Machine
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Thanks so much for all your help... really do appreciate it! !

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04 Nov 2013 16:30 #155849 by Lean Machine
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One final q... it may seem silly though, but as I mentioned above I had noticed the discharge and you sed it was normal. .. of I had to have intercourse without protection, could that discharge lead to her getting pregnant? Even if I didn't ejaculate?

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