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stanTHEman
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15 Sep 2014 20:47 #174585 by stanTHEman

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Haha I'm sure you can see by my diet that I do not have a problem with the food but yes I will keep on working hard on my delts and upper chest , middle trap gets worked with back movements

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Eros
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16 Sep 2014 05:23 #174602 by Eros

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And some strong shrugs!!

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stanTHEman
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16 Sep 2014 07:33 #174604 by stanTHEman

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Just a quick question , when it comes to shrugs , what works best for u guys , heavy weight 6-12 reps or a Manageable weight and 12 to 15 reps as well as do u prefer barbell or dumbell shrugs??

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Kuifie
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16 Sep 2014 07:57 - 16 Sep 2014 07:58 #174605 by Kuifie

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For me I alter between heavy and light weight. and alter between rep ranges as well. But tilt your head slightky downward when doing shrugs. this will ensure you make use of both functions of the traps which is pulling shoulders upward and backward. and focus on your contraction at the top. Also sometimes just bang out some heavy reps just to shock the mucsle ! just my 2cents.

Give me the strength to forgive those who curl in the sqaut rack

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stanTHEman
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16 Sep 2014 08:06 #174606 by stanTHEman

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Thank you for some good info kuifei

With shrugs I normaly keep my scapula tucked in and keep my shoulder straight and not leaning forward and lead with elbows when doing the shrug movement , I will try the head down move , I like to do 3 heavy sets 6 - 10 reps followed by 3 medium weight sets with 15 reps

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stanTHEman
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16 Sep 2014 13:09 #174632 by stanTHEman

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My first cycle in 2015

Week 1-10 Test C @ 500mg per week
Week 1-4 dbol @ 40mg ED
Week 5-PCT HCG @ 500iu per week

Pct:
14 days clomid @ 50mg
30days nolva @ 20mg

AI will be letro as the other AI's are a bit to Expensive

Any suggestions??

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Oupa
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16 Sep 2014 13:54 - 16 Sep 2014 13:58 #174641 by Oupa

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stanTHEman wrote: My first cycle in 2015

Week 1-10 Test C @ 500mg per week
Week 1-4 dbol @ 40mg ED
Week 5-PCT HCG @ 500iu per week

Pct:
14 days clomid @ 50mg
30days nolva @ 20mg

AI will be letro as the other AI's are a bit to Expensive

Any suggestions??

Looks good. Extend the cyp to 12 weeks. Add a bridge week 10 to 16 to ride out the long test cyp ester before your pct starts. Winnies + Proviron, Tbol or Anavar is good options.

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stanTHEman
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16 Sep 2014 15:23 #174646 by stanTHEman

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What would be the best newbie bridge between winni+proviron and tbol?? And just a quick question , while in bridge and pct to you still keep a high calorie diet or do you go into a caloric deficit diet

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Oupa
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16 Sep 2014 16:11 #174650 by Oupa

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Never go into a deficit with your goals in mind.

If you have the cash, run proviron from day 1 throughout your cycle. Then add winnies as bridge.

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stanTHEman
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16 Sep 2014 16:27 #174654 by stanTHEman

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Thank you for all the help oupa

Well I'm not yet loaded like that haha so for the first 2 cycle's I will stick to winni and proviron as my bridge , and thank you for clearing up the question about the calories

How much of a Difference would 100mg test a week make in total?? , would it be a better choice to go with test E 600mg a week for my second cycle and stick with test cyp 500mg a week for my first?? Does this make any difference???

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Oupa
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16 Sep 2014 21:54 #174669 by Oupa

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You wont notice the difference with long esters between 500mg C and 600mg E per week. Best bang for your buck would be to go for PGW Supertest 320.

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stanTHEman
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17 Sep 2014 07:14 #174676 by stanTHEman

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Would I still get results tough if I use 600mg test E per week in my second cycle??

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18 Sep 2014 10:11 #174740 by stanTHEman

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Hay guys

Just a small question crossed my mind now

Is it always possible for a newbie to get 10 shots out of a 10ml vial??

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Oupa
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18 Sep 2014 10:18 - 18 Sep 2014 10:18 #174743 by Oupa

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lol Kak.

You will never get 10 shots @ 1ml from a 10ml vial. Think about it....

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stanTHEman
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18 Sep 2014 10:24 #174750 by stanTHEman

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Oky fair enough it sounds stupid now but a newbie to steroids won't be able to withdraw exactly 1ml every single time , so would it not be a better or at least safer choice to buy 3 10ml vial's in sted of only 2 if you are planning a 10 week cycle ?? Does that make any sense??

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Oupa
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18 Sep 2014 10:34 #174754 by Oupa

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That makes perfect sense. Remember there will always remain a little amount of steroid in the needle cap, that is why i said kak. 10/10 not possible. 9/10 is avg. 9.5 is good Haha.

Cycling steroids is NOT to the day specific, especially with injectables. Orals is a different story. When we say 5 weeks, stay at 5 weeks. When we say 12 weeks of injectables, and you have 1.2ml left, use it.

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18 Sep 2014 12:20 #174764 by stanTHEman

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Thank you oupa that makes a lot more sence , thank you for clearing that out

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18 Sep 2014 16:17 #174791 by stanTHEman

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What would be the best cost Efficient bridge between winni+proviron and tbol?? Best results??

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Oupa
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18 Sep 2014 16:21 #174794 by Oupa

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I love both options. You will have to see what works the best with your body. Give or take whatever option, you are not going to save big bux by choosing between those two compounds. tbol works out basically the same as winnie + provirons.

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18 Sep 2014 16:31 #174796 by stanTHEman

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Thank you once again oupa for all the help

So I will just have to try it for my self and find out what happen and how I react to these 2 Components

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Oupa
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18 Sep 2014 16:32 #174797 by Oupa

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pleasure. remember your liver support supplements. milk thistle will do @ 2 caps a day.

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18 Sep 2014 17:11 #174805 by stanTHEman

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Thoughout the whole cycle?? Or thoughout the orals??

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19 Sep 2014 13:43 - 19 Sep 2014 13:43 #174879 by Mason Might

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Well Done man...

Keep us updated, looking forward to following your success!

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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stanTHEman
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19 Sep 2014 14:30 #174881 by stanTHEman

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Hay thank you mason might , yes for sure will keep you guys updated no worrys

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23 Sep 2014 15:23 #175124 by stanTHEman

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How many drops of letro would be good to keep away any estrogen side effects , 3 drops m/w/f ???

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