Bulk Cycle

HCG at 250iux2 week subcutaneous shots with a slin pin, Mondays and Fridays.

Cabasser at 0.5mg Every fifth day.

You can up HCG to 500iu per shot in those last two weeks leading up to PCT.

Hey AlphaWolf,

Welcome to this forum bro and glad you found us.
Despite using way too much gear and obvious newbie mistakes, please know that you have already taken a major step in the right direction joining this forum.

I knew very little about gear when I first joined, and the guys on here have changed my life literally.
Take their advice seriously and you will be able to sort out your problems. And then who knows, maybe a year from now, you can get back on a good cycle which can help you make permanent gains.

Good luck bro and stay strong.

Nate

You look good in those pics, def put on a pile of muscle.

Some signs of acne on your shoulders & chest, Maybe that stuff is not as fake as you think.
Under-dosed??? I certainly hope so, less chance of your system being pounded.

I always strugle with acne sense puberty not on my face but arms and back

I picked up 30 kg of mass and my bodyfat droped aswell but i guess alot if this mass is water

Ipca is also the ceapest gear around so how legit it is well in my opinion its shit and the var was tested its fake as can get

I eat about 1-2kg meat a day chicken, ostrich, steak, mince
And 1kg pasta whole weed or white rice or maiz i cycle it so i dont get bored
Drink 2-3l milk a day
1kg yogurt a day
10 eggs
120g of oats
Peanut butter befor bed

I eat every hour and half to 2 hours
Its between 28000 and 33000 klj a day i cycle it

Sjoe. Okay bud we are going to have to structure that diet in a more detailed manner.

Set it out for us meal by meal, include calories, and macros per meal and per day.

Bru, everytime I read through your posts my balls start to hide from me
But, +1 for taking these comments and critique on the chin. That takes balls (showing you still have some )
You are looking good on the pics, tend to agree with Oupiel that it might not have been as faked as you think, seems to have signs of sides.
But then again after all that gear and dosages from pgw in your time frame you would have been a walking side...

The hard part of your journey will start now, but all is not lost. Take it as a learning school, and come back stronger and smarter in future.

Go through the dieting stickies and then post your diet, let the guys help you out. Because on cycle you might not have gained to much fat, but in pct you will gain fat while loosing "water" muscles if you eating that much. Try MyFitnessPal to punch in the diet and get the numbers out. Suspect you are way over 20% over your tdee.

And Welcome. This is why im on this forum 10+ times a day. These guys want to help you if you want to help yourself.

Cheers man, keep us updated as to how you doing on the prop, pct and post pct. Research every day instead of facebook for 15min, and by the time you can do your next cycle you wil be a guru..

How's that diet coming along?
Come buddy need to get on top of it!

Hahah yes MM was in meetings the whole day im off at 3 then gym for a few hours the. Ill post it its week end so ill have time to properly write all

And thank u for your help bud its much appreciated

You said i must use prop at 100/150mg eod hcg 250ius 2x per week and cab @ .5mg every 5 days thats for the prolactin control from the heavy dosing of deca but my question to u is should i take an AI now aswel with the prop

If you feel gyno setting in yes use the AI.

But if you don't need it, don't use it.

Start sourcing your PCT meds too bud, remember you will need clomid, Aromasin and Tamoxifen

Okay so its

Clomid
Nolvadex
Ovidrel ( i cant find anywhere only pregnal, does LP have ovidrel?)
Aromasin

Mason Might wrote: If you feel gyno setting in yes use the AI.

But if you don't need it, don't use it.

Start sourcing your PCT meds too bud, remember you will need clomid, Aromasin and Tamoxifen

I was wondering and read up a bit that clen runs well with prop and is anti catabolic

So i was thinking sense im abandoning my 7 week in cycle and might lose alot of my mass

And i am gona run prop for 40 days and wait 14 for pct can i run the clen with the prop to lean out

2 weeks on 2 weeks of and 2weeks on

At 40mcg progressing up to 80mcg and then down to 40 again

Might as well get shreded and make the best of this kak situation im in

Bro you don't need the anti catabolic effect from clen as prop is there and will keep you anabolic.
Clen only works with a deficit and you need to keep calorie intake up to preserve that mass you have put on.
I also wouldn't advise additional compounds aside from what's necessary.
Clen is dangerous stuff, and needs to be respected. Pyro wrote the most informative thread on the Web about clen and it comes along with a dosing schedule and taper method.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...buterol?limitstart=0

Read and learn, but I definitely advise against it.

The pregnyl can be omitted completely as you are using HCG. I think I said somewhere that the HCG dose can be doubled in the last couple weeks of the bridge leading up to PCT. This is info I stole from Ma . So rest assured it will work.

All you need then for you PCT is clomid, Nolvadex and the Aromasin.

Also put money aside to pay for blood tests. We need to see what's working and what isn't.

Sorry back to clen, the two on two off protocol is antiquated and unnecessary with the use of beta sleep or ketoifen.

And on that note, have you guys seen Biogen is selling betasleep in 100's?
And milk thistle!
Think they trying to cater for us... :woohoo:

Too bad they have a shit product