Psy's First Cycle

Split your winnies mornings, afternoons and evenings if your on 30mg, if you bump it up to 40, use the same protocol but the one higher dose when you training, mornings, afternoons or evenings

example if you training in the evening

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or mornings

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Guys, the hardest part about pinning (for me) is removing the stupid needle cap from a luer slip needle! I struggle and am soo scared of pulling it as I have in the past pricked my finger by doing that.
Are there any tricks / tips? I'd love to get some luer lock syringes and needles but they are not too easy to find in SA and you need to purchase them in boxes. So can't just walk into Dischem and get what I need.


So on Thursday I had my last test cyp pin. Only got like 0.3 / 0.4ml out of it so was a small shot - the previous test cyp shot was also less than 1ml (around 0.6ml) as the bottle was getting low. I did that pin myself and it was alright.

Today I did my first test prop pin and did it myself, I made a mistake with regards to where in my ass I stuck it but it was fine. Might have ended up more in my fat as opposed to muscle but regardless it will work!
No pain or sting what so ever while injecting and so far no PIP at all. PGW Prop FTW!! :woohoo:
Although let me get a few more test prop solo pins under my belt to see.


Over the past 2 weeks it feels as if my cardio endurance has improved greatly which I am happy about and I suspect it is due to the aromasin and some water weight which is being shed?
I have had some pimples appear which are annoying it, by far the worst I have had this cycle - only appearing now at the end but seems as if they are busy going away. They just look soo big and red! People on my gym probably know or suspect :dry:

Cutting has been alright, my body tells me it wants carbs though and as soon as it gets carbs it is happy.
I am still in a deficit so all is good I reckon.

Today is my 4th day on Winstrol. I have not really noticed anything different by taking them except for my endurance has really improved the past few days but could be due to things other than winstrol so I cannot say for certain it is due to the Winstrol.

When you put the needle on the syringe, press and turn it before removing the safety cap. There is a small ridge on the needle at the bottom, use your thumb nail to hold the needle in place and then remove the cap by also turning before pulling. No way the needle will come off.

Oupa wrote: When you put the needle on the syringe, press and turn it before removing the safety cap. There is a small ridge on the needle at the bottom, use your thumb nail to hold the needle in place and then remove the cap by also turning before pulling. No way the needle will come off.

Will give it a try, thanks.

I now try and remove the cap by slowly wiggling it from side to side, will take a look for those groves though.

I had the same problem so I figured out that you must make sure the needle is fastened properly (it's a lot further than you think). To remove the needle, replace the cap and turn it without pulling. You will see the needle slip off.

Thanks guys, was a lot easier to get the cap off last night. I really, really pushed the needle on hard, used my thumb nail to hold the needle on the syringe and then twisted the cap and pulled it off from the tip of the cap and that worked well enough and I got it done with ease. Probably not the best or safest method but it worked for me and hopefully will continue to work well for me

Also I spoke too soon with regards to PIP, the PGW Prop (for me at least) does not sting when pinning it but the next day my ass is sore, infact for the next 3 days. I can handle the PIP but I think I would struggle to pin a chemical which stings while you are injecting it.

I pinned right glute last night and today it is sore. However nothing like I have read about where people are unable to life their leg and all that jazz, the 2nd day after a pin is the worst I think.


Cycle is going well, I managed a new PR while in a caloric deficit the other day, did 130KG deadlifts for 2 reps. I have noticed that I have lost a bit of weight - once again I am assuming mostly water - my clothes are not quite as tight on me. I am trying to keep my strength up as much as I can in gym but I am certainly fatiguing a lot more than I was when I was eating a caloric deficit - back then it felt as if I could gym forever with minimal fatigue.

Also my endurance has certainly improved. I still get what I think is referred to as shin splints when on the treadmill after around 5 or 6 minutes only - prior to my cycle I could use the treadmill for longer without getting shin splints but it seems as if I have always been prone to them as I remember when I was younger I'd still get them... Really annoying and doubt there is much I can do about that though. It won't stop me from doing cardio though.

I used pure pharma grade and trust me, you will be sore for another few days. I pinned my right quad two days ago and I am still shitting bricks when walking, PIP it happens, part of my life

Oupa wrote: I used pure pharma grade and trust me, you will be sore for another few days. I pinned my right quad two days ago and I am still shitting bricks when walking, PIP it happens, part of my life

Haha, does it sting while you are injecting the pharma grade goodness or just PIP the next day?

Yipp, today when I woke up with a slightly sore ass I made peace with the fact that having a sore ass until I am done with the test prop will have to be part of my life. It could be worse.

This forum has been quiet the past week or so.

There is no difference between PGW or Pharma grade. PIP's like a woman's moods, it stings when it wants and also hurts when and where it wants :silly:

Guys! I am feeling great! My strength seems to have increased a bit (guessing its the winny) and my agility / endurance is soo much better. My stairs at work, I ended up walking up them mid way through my cycle and I felt heavy. Not anymore, I now can friggen jump up them again. There is a spring in my step while running up them.
In terms of weight I am 1.5KG less than the most I have weighed during this cycle (food and clothes included in those weights though).

I ended up not cutting for this weekend though. Eating has really not been that great this past weekend and I need to get it back in check! Not so much the amount of food, but the quality of food. I have gotten the amount of food back in check at least.

That being said, I hit my Deadlift PR again today but for more reps (130KG). Not too shabby for someone weighing around 60KG in the morning pre-food and and clothes IMO.

I had the best pin on Saturday night so far with the test prop. Soo smooth, easy and hardly any PIP. I have probably had worse PIP from a bad test cyp shot than this past test prop shot.
I am hoping the one tonight goes just as well as the 2nd test prop shot was really bad, I can understand how some might end up with a limp.

Hey Psy. How's the cycle coming? You done with your bridge?

IronKobra767 wrote: Hey Psy. How's the cycle coming? You done with your bridge?

Cycle is good, I am in a calorie deficit still and I have lost some of my size and weight as expected - it does suck losing size.

Although yesterday I still managed to deadlift 130KG and DB press 35KG a side which is the heaviest I have been able to achieve during my cycle so strength wise I am doing alright but I feel as if I get tired a lot easier and quicker at the moment. I do not have the same consistent energy throughout my workouts and feeling tired does mess with my motivation.

I finish my Winstrol on Tuesday and then start PCT on Friday (25th) I think, or the Saturday (26th).
So I will most likely increase calories back to around maintenance now to try keep as much of my muscle as I come off the AAS.


I will be honest and state that this whole cut at the end of the cycle could have gone a lot better and it feels rather "iffy". Something I need to work on for next time and try plan a bit better, it still seems to make the most sense to do a cycle where you bulk, then extend it a bit and cut while you still have some AAS assistance.


The soonest I should do another cycle is December, so I still have plenty of time to look back at this cycle and improve myself based on what I have learnt from it as well as do more research and plan things... Also to try increase my strength as much as possible and get back up to where I was when I was at my peak during this cycle, or stronger if possible.

Sorry for the delayed response and update.

Once I started the Clomid everything seemed to have taken a dive and my motivation went to shit, my moods were soo unstable and I was on what felt like a constant down and I even had some insomnia for 3 or 4 days after starting it. Depressed and unmotivated and apathetic and numb. I ran Clomid at 50mg a day.

Since I started the Nolvadex everything seems to be improving - mood, motivation, the way I feel about myself. My strength has gone down a bit, will see how I am at gym today though as last week I worked out 3 days in a row so that could possibly have effected my strength on the last day.

Size / weight wise, I have certainly dropped although last I checked I was around 58KG's so let's see what weight I stabilize at.


I will try get some pics, however they won't look as great as when I had just finished my last test shot or bridge but still. Better than nothing, right?




I really enjoyed the cycle, except for the PCT / Clomid phase. I am not sure whether it was the Clomid which made me feel like shit or whether the low test and I only started to feel it when I started taking the Clomid?

If it was the Clomid, next time I'd rather run 100mg Clomid a day for half the amount of time if it still gets the job done in terms of recovery?

100mg Clomid ED will make you feel even more kak, best is what you did.. suck it up and ride it out