Psy's 2nd Cycle

Hey guys!

Been a while, I know.

So been trying to decide on a 2nd cycle and am thinking of the following:


Superdrol @ 10mg (3 weeks) - I might increase to 20mg for the last 4 days to prevent left over capsules
Test Cyp @ 500mg per week (250mg every 4 days)
HCG @ 250iu starting in the 4th or 5th week (depending on how my balls are) and run it until PCT

Bridge: Will decide closer to the time, last cycle I did Test Prop & Winstrol. Prop was good, winstrol I found "boring".

PCT will be the usual and same as last time:
Clomid @ 50mg for 14 days (Gosh, I hate this stuff)
Nolvadex for a month (entire LP bottle) and starting the day after Clomid

I have Aromasin on hand (half a bottle or so), have my ONE Cycle Support as well as extra Milk Thistle and am taking my Omega 3 fish oils.

So a pretty straight forward cycle, it is just the Superdrol which is new. I see majority of people run it at 20mg, however I think 10mg will still suffice? Seems some get very lethargic on it while others are fine.

I originally wanted to run a test prop & NPP cycle, however that becomes very pricey very quickly and I have other financial priorities so a simple test cyp cycle it is.


Any advice or recommendations?
I am quite keen for my 2nd cycle, see what weight I peak at this time and am eager to try SD over Dbol. Hit some new PR's as well

Will you be running TUDCA alongside the orals? I've been told it's really good for the toxicity of sdrol/adrol.

How was your recovery after your last cycle? Is it depressing training off cycle?

DruOmedra wrote: Will you be running TUDCA alongside the orals? I've been told it's really good for the toxicity of sdrol/adrol.

How was your recovery after your last cycle? Is it depressing training off cycle?

I had never heard of it until now, where could I get some locally? I imagine it's Over The Counter / no script needed?


Yeah, training while off cycle is.... Well, slow and it can be demotivating.
Especially around PCT time, Clomid makes you feel unbelievably bad (well, me at least) and you stop making progress with weights and then you slowly start to lose weight and some size even though you're training and pushing hard and then you combine it all together - I found it really unpleasant to be honest. I peaked at between 63kg I think and after my cycle my weight ended up around 58kg. People notice when you lose 5kgs, especially when your a mere 1.63m tall like myself

You're training your ass off, gains just aren't happening like before, it's hard to not think about the weights you use to lift and the weights you're currently lifting.

Not enjoyable, luckily I have my gym partner and the way he looked at it was a lot more positive and helped me out a lot. You really need to train to try keep as much of the gains and still try lift as heavy weights as possible - basically use other means to benchmark your "performance".

It's been a while since my 1st cycle came to an end and I'm bigger, stronger and heavier still compared to before I started my 1st cycle and that always puts a smile on my face. I feel as if knowing g what else I'm capable of, regardless of whether I had some chemical assistance or not, certainly helps with overall confidence at times too.

Hi Psy.

Good to have you back Brother. Plus 1 for keeping it up.

I would say good idea to keep the Aromasin on hand and consider adding it with the Nolvadex in PCT Superdrol is known to cause rebound gyno. But I think it is also due to shitty PCT or lack of PCT in most cases.

How long you planning to run your Test Cyp? Are you going to go for a Prop bridge again?
I love keeping it simple for a cycle. Always good to keep your options open for future stacks.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi Psy.

Good to have you back Brother. Plus 1 for keeping it up.

I would say good idea to keep the Aromasin on hand and consider adding it with the Nolvadex in PCT Superdrol is known to cause rebound gyno. But I think it is also due to shitty PCT or lack of PCT in most cases.

How long you planning to run your Test Cyp? Are you going to go for a Prop bridge again?
I love keeping it simple for a cycle. Always good to keep your options open for future stacks.

Hey Rooi Bul,

Hmm, sdrol causing rebound gyno around pct time even? Woah alright, from what I read and how I understand it is that sdrol itself won't cause gyno.
Sdrol takes up a lot of the SHBG which leads to a lot more free test in your body and this free test is then able to aromatise to estrogen?

If that's the case it's weird how it could be delayed by 3 months, during pct your test levels are a lot lower already compared to say week 5 or 6.

I'll certainly keep it on hand, you reckon best to wait and see whether I start getting some gyno issues during pct before adding the Aromasin?


I'll run the test for 3 months, 4 at most - always want to make sure I recover properly



I might do prop again in Bridge, been thinking maybe some Tbol even?
Last time I ended up cutting during my bridge and this time I want to keep bulking.

I think you are spot on with the Sdrol lowering SHBG then the free test causes more aromatisation than normal and this causes the gyno. Most cases of Sdrol gyno I have heard about was when it was ran alone and with most cases no PCT. I think some of our guys wil be able to tell you more. A couple of my friends have ran Superdrol ant Test Cyp others Superdrol and Test Prop. PGW and Lp. They all love Superdrol. I trained with the one quite some time back on his Superdrol Prop cycle and man the on cycle pumps he experienced was insane he gained solid lean muscle.

I think Tbol is going to do you well as a bridge even with some Proviron if you have the dough.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: I think you are spot on with the Sdrol lowering SHBG then the free test causes more aromatisation than normal and this causes the gyno. Most cases of Sdrol gyno I have heard about was when it was ran alone and with most cases no PCT. I think some of our guys wil be able to tell you more. A couple of my friends have ran Superdrol ant Test Cyp others Superdrol and Test Prop. PGW and Lp. They all love Superdrol. I trained with the one quite some time back on his Superdrol Prop cycle and man the on cycle pumps he experienced was insane he gained solid lean muscle.

I think Tbol is going to do you well as a bridge even with some Proviron if you have the dough.

Awesome, you're getting me excited now!
I'll be running PGW & LP as usual.

If I do run Tbol it probably won't be with Proviron, I think I'd rather run prop & Tbol in my bridge than Tbol & Proviron?

With my last cycle I found the orals (dbol & winstrol) were not nearly as effective as the test! That being said, when my gym partner was on Winstrol his strength went up a looot despite him having stopped taking test already. I put it down to body chemistry as we were taking the same doses for everything and he's heavier and taller than I am

Yeah Tbol and Prop is 100%.

Yeah some guys react completely different on a chemical than you do. That is why it is all trail and error

welcome back Psy

is there a specific reason you want to run the sdrol? apart from being a kickstart? myself and iron kobra are running test Cyp cycles now with a test prop kicker the first few weeks. maybe have a look at that idea? i know my last cycle the dianabol made me feel a little kak after a while

Demolish wrote: welcome back Psy

is there a specific reason you want to run the sdrol? apart from being a kickstart? myself and iron kobra are running test Cyp cycles now with a test prop kicker the first few weeks. maybe have a look at that idea? i know my last cycle the dianabol made me feel a little kak after a while

Well, orals generally kick in quicker than oils. If I remember correctly test prop was around 2 weeks until it's in full swing and 2 weeks until it's out (or pct ready)?

A lot of people say sdrol is pretty good for muscle gains too, so decided to give it a go.
How would you kick-start with test prop and run test Cyp as the main compound?

Do both prop and Cyp pins and then after 2 weeks just stop the prop pins and continue with the Cyp pins?
I might want to try that for my 3rd cycle.

Psy at the start of the cycle you pin the prop twice a week with your Cyp for 4weeks then continue Cyp only then two weeks Pre bridge pin prop again for with cyp then drop cyp and pin prop solo for two weeks Prop dosage 150mg Monday and Thursday. Took this from Oupas advice to IK so full credit to Oupa

Sorry man I don't know about the tudca but literally every American forum I am on recommendations it for cycles with orals. I'm sure 00pump or muscle addict will know.

It might be an.ingredient in some essential liver protection too because people here recommend it.

Thanks for the update man and good work on your pushing through!

yeah so the prop acts as your front load, it wont be as quick as an oral , but prop half life is around 4.5 days if i remember correctly. so its 1.5ml prop with 1ml cyp 2x a week for the first 4 weeks then at the end overlap the prop into bridge

@Demolisher & Rooi Bul, thanks for the info guys!

I think I will continue to kickstart with Sdrol to give it a try and see how it affects me however I quite like the idea of running the prop into the bridge like that.

Basically do the prop 2 weeks before the bridge, I would imagine the prop you would then pin EOD as soon as you are in your bridge or would you keep it at twice a week as well?

Late to the party, curious to read about your sdrol journey, Psy.

Yeah go ahead and pin Prop EOD.

Best of luck mate.

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Alright, so my gym partner and I started yesterday...

1st pin went well, I was a bit nervous as I had been a while since I last had a needle inside of me.
Keen to see how the SD treats us, we are both taking only 10mg per day for now and will only increase to 20mg for the last 4 days to prevent left over caps.

So a quick update. Today is exactly 7 week since I started.

Loooving the Superdrol!
Dbol & Winstrol (for me) aren't nearly as great as what I am getting from Superdrol. This is how you kick start a cycle.

I feel / look leaner then before starting the cycle yet my weight has gone up and so has my strength and size. Already my recovery is up and stamina in the gym too, motivation as well.


In terms of feeling lethargic, not so much. However I am taking 10mg as opposed to the usual 20mg which most seem to take and it is only a week in so far.
I messed up my pin schedule and did my 2nd pin one day earlier due to a silly mistake a made however I will correct it now and continue pinning 250mg every 4 days (3 days between pins). My 2nd pin was also one of the worst pins I have ever had - as soon as the needle went in I felt some pain start and it just got worse as the oil went in. Afterwards there was a big bump, reduced in size a bit after rubbing it (hoping to disperse the oil a bit).

Anyways, that is over and done with. Not too sure what happened but wasn't even all THAT bad. A bit uncomfortable is all.

I am up around 2-3KG already too, albeit glycogen and perhaps even some water?

How many days have you been on Sdrol?

DruOmedra wrote: How many days have you been on Sdrol?

Today is day 9.

I did legs today and the back pumps I was getting, unpleasant and I am sure they will only get worse going forward. I love what the SDrol is doing to my body though!

I do seem to be sweating more than others in the gym, however it is hard to say whether it is due to the Sdrol or some other factors.

I have never had back pumps with sdrol, not in the last 3 year to say the least

Be sure to focus on form when doing Squads, Lunges and stiff-legged's.

OPTRON wrote: Be sure to focus on form when doing Squads, Lunges and stiff-legged's.

I do, the weird part is I got back pumps from doing leg press and laying leg curls. :huh:
I will see what happens on Friday as then I will be doing some legs again.

Can it maybe be your kidneys/liver from the orals? It almost feels like back pumps. Why don't you try some milk thistle?

Psy my man.

Get some Glu Tuarine through you think Nutritech makes a good one now!

Don't use milk thistle on any cycle stick with essential extreme.

I doubt it is my kidneys as I recall it being the area around my spine and lower down towards where my pelvis is.

I am already in Milk Thistle - I am taking the ONE Cycle Support.
I have a bit of essentiale although it is rather pricey and not too sure whether I really need to add some of that in my cycle? Although perhaps at least for the duration of the SD as it can't hurt I guess.

The pain was only there after the exercise / towards the end of the set and lasted no more than 5 minutes. Haven't had any issues since although today was a rest day.


Rooibul, for interest sake why do you suggest essentiale extreme and not milk thistle?
From what I have heard / read TUDCA is amazing stuff and would probably be ideal however I can't source any locally and not sure it is worth importing some.