Basic SUST & DECA cycle

Hi there,

I've gained so much knowledge by browsing through this forum and so far all has been brilliant!! I'm also very happy to see that so far I have come across some decent sense of humour without too much sensitivity.

Some background:
I'm 31 years old and pretty much have been training all of my life, been involved in semi-professional team sports, on national level at time. With career, life changes and family happening, training unfortunately took a backseat for a while, or let me rather say the extreme training took a backseat.

I took a break from the gym for 3 years, missed it way too much and I'm back in the gym 6days a week from the get go from the beginnig of the year.

I'm starting to collect items for my stack and need some pointers, or more confirmations on my ideas.... I'm definitely not the pro at cycles/stacks, I'm pro at other things...

I did a cycle of test suspension and Dbol many moons ago. I like keeping things simple and not complicated so I'm aiming for the basics.

I'm thinking either 10-12 weeks of SUSTANON (500mg/week) and DECCA(400mg/week).
Possibly kick starting it with some Dbol for the first 5weeks at 40mg/day and then starting the SUST &DECCA from the 4th week. Surely I could do Dbol the full 12weeks, is it advised, not advised or not even a question?

PCT:
I'm thinking along the lines of clomid and nolvadex, starting the PCT 2-3weeks after the last jab.
Nolvadex (40/40/20/20)
Clomid (100/50/50/50)

I'm in no rush to start using, I want to get at least 4-5months solid training in before I start with the good stuff!

At the moment I'm 168cm
87kgs, seriously stocky build,
15-18% body fat,
Diet is pretty decent and clean,
Weights 6days a week, 2 maybe three cardio sessions a week.

Goal is to bulk up and the get lean and ripped AF! Eventually!

I trust I'll get damn decent advice here....

Helo-driver wrote: Hi there,

I've gained so much knowledge by browsing through this forum and so far all has been brilliant!! I'm also very happy to see that so far I have come across some decent sense of humour without too much sensitivity.

Some background:
I'm 31 years old and pretty much have been training all of my life, been involved in semi-professional team sports, on national level at time. With career, life changes and family happening, training unfortunately took a backseat for a while, or let me rather say the extreme training took a backseat.

I took a break from the gym for 3 years, missed it way too much and I'm back in the gym 6days a week from the get go from the beginnig of the year.

I'm starting to collect items for my stack and need some pointers, or more confirmations on my ideas.... I'm definitely not the pro at cycles/stacks, I'm pro at other things...

I did a cycle of test suspension and Dbol many moons ago. I like keeping things simple and not complicated so I'm aiming for the basics.

Hi driver,seems like dedicated and I hope this year goes great!!

I'm thinking either 10-12 weeks of SUSTANON (500mg/week) and DECCA(400mg/week).
Possibly kick starting it with some Dbol for the first 5weeks at 40mg/day and then starting the SUST &DECCA from the 4th week. Surely I could do Dbol the full 12weeks, is it advised, not advised or not even a question?

It's a good stack but you want to start sust and deca from week 1, dbol you can run until week 4 but any longer than that your liver really strains.

PCT:
I'm thinking along the lines of clomid and nolvadex, starting the PCT 2-3weeks after the last jab.
Nolvadex (40/40/20/20)
Clomid (100/50/50/50)

You're on the right track,throw in some HCG from week 4 at 500iu pw split in 2. Do this until your pct starts.

I'm in no rush to start using, I want to get at least 4-5months solid training in before I start with the good stuff!

At the moment I'm 168cm
87kgs, seriously stocky build,
15-18% body fat,
Diet is pretty decent and clean,
Weights 6days a week, 2 maybe three cardio sessions a week.

Goal is to bulk up and the get lean and ripped AF! Eventually!

I trust I'll get damn decent advice here....

Seems like you have done some research and going in the right direction. For sust and deca a 12 week cycle should give you great results.just have a look at your bridge period,with the long esters in there I think it's 54 days until you start your pct(correct me if I'm wrong). Also keep arimadex or aromasin on hand,also try to get caber.
You could either run your bridge with test prop for 2 weeks alongside winstrol or Tbol, or just go the normal route with proviron and winny or proviron and Tbol.

Sorry my answers are mixed in with the quote

Hi Jono,

Thanks for the reply.
I'll do Dbol for the first 4 weeks then for the kickstart.
Sorry, I'm going to ask dumb question here:
-bridge period; between the cycle and the PCT?

I also have some stanzol on hand... i could use that for after the SUST and DECCA stack.

Yes, bridge period is the time between your last injection and pct start time

Thanks Oupa,

Would you recommend I use stanazol for the 3 weeks "bridge" before PCT?

Bud, start the Dbol, Sus and Deca the same time. The Dbol just act as a kicker. Don't start Dbol for 4 weeks and only then start with the Sus and Deca.

If you already have the stanazol, you can use that in your bridge yes.

Thanks Optron!!
That's the route I'm going!!
Jono, Oupa and Optron, you lads are legends! Much appreciated....

I'll keep u lads posted!!!!

Thanks again!

If you can, try to source HCG and use during cycle from week three. It will go a long way to help with the recovery process and keep they'll balls going...

Ya I'm trying to source some HCG Nolvadex clomid and arimex(just to have on hand in case).
I want to use HCG during the cycle for the balls you mentioned, and then stop the HCG when I start the PCt with clomid and nolvadex...

Yeah, that would be perfect. A nice and solid cycle. Keeps us update on your progress. Goodluck

Just remember bridge is more than 30 days

+1 Optron

Gents, good day again!
Strange question. Do you guys store the liquids in the fridge or just in a cool dark place (less than 20deg C)?

Schweet!!
Ps, building my stack gently..first few extra bits on order...

hey buddy, i see you haven't yet updated your bridge period.

if using sustanon bridge is 54 days.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/9-post-cycle-therapy

Hi Hoosain, thanks. Yeah ill post an update soon on my whole cycle, busy putting a nice spreadsheet together on excel.

Thanks, ill make it 54 days!

Just In a dark cupboard. Otherwise it gets thick and takes forever to draw up.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Just In a dark cupboard. Otherwise it gets thick and takes forever to draw up.

Thanks Rooi Bul, I thought so!

Helo-driver wrote: Hi Jono,

Thanks for the reply.
I'll do Dbol for the first 4 weeks then for the kickstart.
Sorry, I'm going to ask dumb question here:
-bridge period; between the cycle and the PCT?

I also have some stanzol on hand... i could use that for after the SUST and DECCA stack.

rather pay a little extra and get tbol instead of dbol's, all the same anabolic properties without the side affects of water retention and aromatization

my 2c

No problems. You can even run warm water over your vial and syringe. Just makes it quick and smooth.

tweaked wrote:

Helo-driver wrote: Hi Jono,

Thanks for the reply.
I'll do Dbol for the first 4 weeks then for the kickstart.
Sorry, I'm going to ask dumb question here:
-bridge period; between the cycle and the PCT?

I also have some stanzol on hand... i could use that for after the SUST and DECCA stack.

rather pay a little extra and get tbol instead of dbol's, all the same anabolic properties without the side affects of water retention and aromatization

my 2c

Thanks! appreciate that! will look into it!

So far its looking like this:
On-cycle: week 1-11
Bridge period: week 12-19 (54days due to Sustanon)
PCT: week 20 - 23

Week 1-4: Dbol (or Tbol) 40mg per day
Week 1-11: Decca 400mg per week, split in 2 200mg jabs Monday and Thursday
Week 1-11: Sustanon 500mg per week, split in 2 250mg jabs Monday and Thursday
Week 4-19: HCG 500iu/week, split into 2 250iu jabs, Tuesday and Friday

Bridge period:
Week 12-15: Winstrol 50mg/day
Week 15-19: Winstrol 100mg/day

PCT:
Week 20:Clomid 100mg/day Nolvadex 40mg/day
Week 21: Clomid 50mg/day Nolvadex 40mg/day
Week 22 & 23: Clomid 50mg /day Nolvadex 20mg/day

Does that make sense??

Is your Wistrol Injection or Tablets?

It's tabs rooi bul

Then you don't want to be taking 100mg a day. If it is 50mg Tablets split a tab in half with a pill cutter or a minora blade take half morning half after noon. No use on going overkill on your bridge remember Winstrol is Liver toxic now after that you are going onto Nolvadex and Clomid and yes they are essential for Post Cycle Therapy but they are also moderately liver toxic