prop , equipoise and masteron

hello manne,

ek het nou baie lang gevat om iets uit te werk en op te swat wat ek wil achieve.
ek is op die oomblik 90 kg en bf 11 % , en 184 cm.

my goal is om te cut en baie lean.

my plan is op die oomblik en wat ek gelees het oor van die steroids wil ek die volgende doen.

equipoise x 2ml 'n week
test prop x 2m n week
en dan masteron.

ek lees baie verskillende goed dat ek eers die equipoise moet gebruik vir so 3 weke en dan begin met die test prop.
en eers op die einde begin met die masteron.
my pct sal dan nolvadex wees. kan ek dit gedurend my cycle gebruik of net na die tyd.
en dis 'n 10 week cycle.
klink dit reg om my goals te achieve?
o ja en ek is 33 jaar oud.

Howzit man, your stats seem about right for a cycle but your cycle plans not so much. What is your previous cycle history?

Equipoise is a very long acting compound where test prop and Masteron not so much, you'd see much better results with just test prop and Masteron in terms of hardening up and leaning out.

What mg doses are you planning to use? Read up on the pct 3 in the article section,nolvadex is not enough.

On the surface those three are a good combo for a lean muscle cycle, but here are my thoughts:

1) You haven't really planned it out. 2ml tells us nothing, we need the actual steroid milligram count to judge. There is no mention of time.
2) Three very different half lives.
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Mast Enanthate 10.5 days
Equipoise 14 days
Pinning them all throughout the cycle is going to be confusing and frustrating. Eq takes a long time to act up so Eq cycles are usually 16 weeks. That could be a guideline.
3) Do you know the side effects of Eq? Depending on your lifestyle and activities it might not appeal to you after you are aware of them. On paper Eq looks awesome, but I get really hi BP and hunger is uncontrollable.
4) You don't need Nolva on cycle, at least not for what you are thinking of. Best is to have a strong AI like Aromasin on hand, in case anything happens.
5) PCT will be 10 days Clomid, followed by 30 days Nolva. HCG can be used in the cycle to keep your natural testicular function going.


You can totally make this work though.
Start with Eq and Test Prop, main cycle with Eq and Test Cyp, end cycle with Masteron, and let the Test and Eq ride out.
Something like:
Week 1-4: Eq 600mg, Test Prop 500mg
Week 5-8: Eq 600mg, Test Cyp 500mg
Week 9-14: Eq 600mg, Test Cyp 500mg , Mast E 600mg
Week 15-16: Test Cyp/Prop 500mg , Mast E 600mg
Week 17-18: HCG
Week 19: PCT starts

Have to agree with Furk bud.

Look at your compounds and make sure of their esters and half lives get them all together or as close together as possible. Like change your Testosterone to Enanthate and then get Masteron Enanthate. Equipoise is fine but results come slowly so most run it for 14-16 weeks some 20. Just remember to run tour testosterone longer than the equipoise so when you stop eq run test another 2-3 weeks. Go read the PCT articles

its 250mg per ml.

its Test E , and masteron E with the equipoise.
I train about 5 -6 times per week.

was planning for a 10 week cycle.
1ml eq, test E , masteron mon and Friday.
what gives met then 2 ml on each per week for 10 weeks.

I have been on a cycle before with test prop and winstrol.

y thought about this is that I will do this cycle first then on later stage will bring in the trent.

my other option was to start with the masteron after week 2.

Run the Masteron the whole time. Stop the EQ two weeks before you stop the Testosterone

Test E with Masteron E and EQ nice buddy, but with EQ I'll rather push it 16 to 20 weeks.
EQ vat moer lank om in te skop en moer lank om uittegaan. Jy kan dalk nog met Prop (test + masteron) bridge sal kwaai is...

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Run the Masteron the whole time. Stop the EQ two weeks before you stop the Testosterone

This. If you have enough Mast for the entire cycle, use it. I was being conservative in my example.

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Ok cool.
so as ek nou reg verstaan moet ek die volgende doen.

sal begin met die cycle met Test E , Eq en masteron vir 10 weke op die 2ml per week.
na 10 weke sal ek dan die Test E los en aan gaan met die EQ en dan bridge met Test prop en masteron vir nog so 5 weke.

of moet ek dan net aan gaan met die EQ en Masteron en test los.

zaber69 wrote: Ok cool.
so as ek nou reg verstaan moet ek die volgende doen.

sal begin met die cycle met Test E , Eq en masteron vir 10 weke op die 2ml per week.
na 10 weke sal ek dan die Test E los en aan gaan met die EQ en dan bridge met Test prop en masteron vir nog so 5 weke.

of moet ek dan net aan gaan met die EQ en Masteron en test los.

Los die EQ 2 weke for jou Test E en Mast E klaar is, 8 weke klink nie vir my soos genoeg vir EQ maar anyways, dan as jou Test E en Mast E klaar is dan begin jy dadelik met die Test Prop en Mast Prop vir 6 weke dis so 3 vials van elk OF jy kan Anavar klap vir die 44 dae na jou laaste Test E and Mast E spyt/ of om dit beter te verstaan 58 dae na jou laaste EQ spyt.

Tien weke vir Eq is 'n bietjie kort. As jy al klaar dit het, moet jy maar doen soos jy wil. As jy nog nie het nie en wil korter siklus oorweeg om te juice sonder dit.

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Furk wrote: Tien weke vir Eq is 'n bietjie kort. As jy al klaar dit het, moet jy maar doen soos jy wil. As jy nog nie het nie en wil korter siklus oorweeg om te juice sonder dit.

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Stem saam Furk los dit liewers dan as jy net 10 weke wil hol.

nee ek het dit darm nog nie.
ek gaan dit nou kry dan sal ek net nog kry en die siklus langer maak.

dan sal ek die eq doen vir hoeveel weke en los om op die mast prop en test prop te gaan.
so by 12 of 14 weke

zaber69 wrote: nee ek het dit darm nog nie.
ek gaan dit nou kry dan sal ek net nog kry en die siklus langer maak.

dan sal ek die eq doen vir hoeveel weke en los om op die mast prop en test prop te gaan.
so by 12 of 14 weke

Doen EQ vir 14 weke en Test E + Mast E vir 16 weke, dan begin jy die Test Prop en mast Prop op week 17, m.a.w. as jy in week 16 jou laaste spyt gedoen het van TestE en MastE op Woensdag/Donderdag dan begin jy die Test Prop en Mast Prop op die volgende week se begin Sondag/Maandag.

cool thanks manne wardeur al julle hulp.

en moet ek my training meer maak vir cutting of bulking op die cycle.

op die oomblik prober ek dit split met parymid en giants sets.