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prop , equipoise and masteron
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ek het nou baie lang gevat om iets uit te werk en op te swat wat ek wil achieve.
ek is op die oomblik 90 kg en bf 11 % , en 184 cm.
my goal is om te cut en baie lean.
my plan is op die oomblik en wat ek gelees het oor van die steroids wil ek die volgende doen.
equipoise x 2ml 'n week
test prop x 2m n week
en dan masteron.
ek lees baie verskillende goed dat ek eers die equipoise moet gebruik vir so 3 weke en dan begin met die test prop.
en eers op die einde begin met die masteron.
my pct sal dan nolvadex wees. kan ek dit gedurend my cycle gebruik of net na die tyd.
en dis 'n 10 week cycle.
klink dit reg om my goals te achieve?
o ja en ek is 33 jaar oud.
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Equipoise is a very long acting compound where test prop and Masteron not so much, you'd see much better results with just test prop and Masteron in terms of hardening up and leaning out.
What mg doses are you planning to use? Read up on the pct 3 in the article section,nolvadex is not enough.
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1) You haven't really planned it out. 2ml tells us nothing, we need the actual steroid milligram count to judge. There is no mention of time.
2) Three very different half lives.
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Mast Enanthate 10.5 days
Equipoise 14 days
Pinning them all throughout the cycle is going to be confusing and frustrating. Eq takes a long time to act up so Eq cycles are usually 16 weeks. That could be a guideline.
3) Do you know the side effects of Eq? Depending on your lifestyle and activities it might not appeal to you after you are aware of them. On paper Eq looks awesome, but I get really hi BP and hunger is uncontrollable.
4) You don't need Nolva on cycle, at least not for what you are thinking of. Best is to have a strong AI like Aromasin on hand, in case anything happens.
5) PCT will be 10 days Clomid, followed by 30 days Nolva. HCG can be used in the cycle to keep your natural testicular function going.
You can totally make this work though.
Start with Eq and Test Prop, main cycle with Eq and Test Cyp, end cycle with Masteron, and let the Test and Eq ride out.
Something like:
Week 1-4: Eq 600mg, Test Prop 500mg
Week 5-8: Eq 600mg, Test Cyp 500mg
Week 9-14: Eq 600mg, Test Cyp 500mg , Mast E 600mg
Week 15-16: Test Cyp/Prop 500mg , Mast E 600mg
Week 17-18: HCG
Week 19: PCT starts
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Look at your compounds and make sure of their esters and half lives get them all together or as close together as possible. Like change your Testosterone to Enanthate and then get Masteron Enanthate. Equipoise is fine but results come slowly so most run it for 14-16 weeks some 20. Just remember to run tour testosterone longer than the equipoise so when you stop eq run test another 2-3 weeks. Go read the PCT articles
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its Test E , and masteron E with the equipoise.
I train about 5 -6 times per week.
was planning for a 10 week cycle.
1ml eq, test E , masteron mon and Friday.
what gives met then 2 ml on each per week for 10 weeks.
I have been on a cycle before with test prop and winstrol.
y thought about this is that I will do this cycle first then on later stage will bring in the trent.
my other option was to start with the masteron after week 2.
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EQ vat moer lank om in te skop en moer lank om uittegaan. Jy kan dalk nog met Prop (test + masteron) bridge sal kwaai is...
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This. If you have enough Mast for the entire cycle, use it. I was being conservative in my example.Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Run the Masteron the whole time. Stop the EQ two weeks before you stop the Testosterone
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so as ek nou reg verstaan moet ek die volgende doen.
sal begin met die cycle met Test E , Eq en masteron vir 10 weke op die 2ml per week.
na 10 weke sal ek dan die Test E los en aan gaan met die EQ en dan bridge met Test prop en masteron vir nog so 5 weke.
of moet ek dan net aan gaan met die EQ en Masteron en test los.
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zaber69 wrote: Ok cool.
so as ek nou reg verstaan moet ek die volgende doen.
sal begin met die cycle met Test E , Eq en masteron vir 10 weke op die 2ml per week.
na 10 weke sal ek dan die Test E los en aan gaan met die EQ en dan bridge met Test prop en masteron vir nog so 5 weke.
of moet ek dan net aan gaan met die EQ en Masteron en test los.
Los die EQ 2 weke for jou Test E en Mast E klaar is, 8 weke klink nie vir my soos genoeg vir EQ maar anyways, dan as jou Test E en Mast E klaar is dan begin jy dadelik met die Test Prop en Mast Prop vir 6 weke dis so 3 vials van elk OF jy kan Anavar klap vir die 44 dae na jou laaste Test E and Mast E spyt/ of om dit beter te verstaan 58 dae na jou laaste EQ spyt.
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Furk wrote: Tien weke vir Eq is 'n bietjie kort. As jy al klaar dit het, moet jy maar doen soos jy wil. As jy nog nie het nie en wil korter siklus oorweeg om te juice sonder dit.
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Stem saam Furk los dit liewers dan as jy net 10 weke wil hol.
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ek gaan dit nou kry dan sal ek net nog kry en die siklus langer maak.
dan sal ek die eq doen vir hoeveel weke en los om op die mast prop en test prop te gaan.
so by 12 of 14 weke
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zaber69 wrote: nee ek het dit darm nog nie.
ek gaan dit nou kry dan sal ek net nog kry en die siklus langer maak.
dan sal ek die eq doen vir hoeveel weke en los om op die mast prop en test prop te gaan.
so by 12 of 14 weke
Doen EQ vir 14 weke en Test E + Mast E vir 16 weke, dan begin jy die Test Prop en mast Prop op week 17, m.a.w. as jy in week 16 jou laaste spyt gedoen het van TestE en MastE op Woensdag/Donderdag dan begin jy die Test Prop en Mast Prop op die volgende week se begin Sondag/Maandag.
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en moet ek my training meer maak vir cutting of bulking op die cycle.
op die oomblik prober ek dit split met parymid en giants sets.
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zaber69 wrote: cool thanks manne wardeur al julle hulp.
en moet ek my training meer maak vir cutting of bulking op die cycle.
op die oomblik prober ek dit split met parymid en giants sets.
Wat is jou goal? Gewig optel of net sny?
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maar wil ook bietjie size op tel op my bors
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zaber69 wrote: vir nou wil ek sny en definisie kry.
maar wil ook bietjie size op tel op my bors
Ek sal nie wil sny op juice nie my maat, maar dis moontlik.
Doen meer cardio 45min plus minus, hoë intensiteit, minimum 3 keer n week.
Weights - moet NIE light weight gan nie. Hou jy weights vanpas tot jou krag.
Maak seker jy kry genoeg Protiene in, hou jou carbs laag 50g en klap eenkeer n week carbo load = 450g. Groen groente en eet meer vleis as protein shakes.
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Beste wat werk vir my bors is Flies en incline bench, stadige beweging, volle fleksie en ekstensie.
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baie dankie.
ek is op die oomblik op n keto diet , van 75 % goeie vet , 20 % prot en dan 5% carb.
my carb is meestal bruin rys na oefening 30g.
148 g vet
93 g prot
33 g carb
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goeie vette is soos flaxseed oil, avo , unsalted peanut butter omega 3 .
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Moenie jou self short change nie. Moenie op Keto bang wees vir kaas of vir diet vet soos op steak of tjops nie. Track net als
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ek wil net seker maak op die carbs up dag wat ek een keer 'n week moet doen.
tot hoeveel gram carbs moet ek op gaan as ek so by 30g 'n dag is.
weet ek moet op my daaglikse calories bly en net vet minder maak daai dag.
is dit reg as ek dalk my carbs van 30g na 100g toe vat of moet ek dit meer maak?
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Wat is jou goal body fat drop of hoe en how very reker jy het jy om te gaan?
My persoonlike opinie is dat n person no 10% body fat nie moet carb up of cheat nie dit het my op my cut lelik very terug gesit en toe was ek op Ephedeine en Yohimbine.
As jy carb up verlaag jou vet ja up jou carbs dan maar maak seker jy gaan nie oor jou Maintenance calories gaan nie
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