500MG Test E only cycle - I FEEL LIKE TOTAL CRAP!

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12 Oct 2018 20:53 - 12 Oct 2018 20:56 #217902 by JackSilver
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So today was 4 days since my last dose of 0.5mg of Adex. I took a dose of 0.25mg this morning and my workout today was a fuck ton better from anything I had in the last 3 weeks. I think I am extremely responsive to Adex and a 0.5mg dose just rains on my parade.

While there's still a lot of nonsense going on in my arms I decided to drop the ego lifting weights and opted for something new. I literally left home and said "fuck it" lets do something totally different.

I ended up with a chest day:

10 x 15 Bench
5 x 15 Incline Bench
5 X 15 Cable Crossovers

While the weight was moderate I actually had a great workout and left feeling satisfied unlike the last couple of workouts where I wasn't even sure what I was doing in the gym. My libido has also picked up. I seriously hope any new guys who find this thread learns something from my experience with Adex. THE BRO SCIENCE on the web is strong. 0.5MG EOD for the sake of preventative measures will destroy you. People should really start mild cycles off without it.

Muscleaddict wrote: The ideal E2 range is different when you are on gear because the T:E ratio is more important that the actual number.


This comment has been stuck in my mind regarding the T:E ratio. Is there anyone who could elaborate on this? It makes total sense on face value and leaves me not understanding why "broscience" suggests 22-25 pg/ml being the ideal range while on cycle. This is probably ideal for a natural individual but would not be true if the T:E ratio is more important than the actual numbers as test is elevated.
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13 Oct 2018 05:07 #217903 by Morrgear
I have read this question of the ratio before and my personal experience tells me this whole E2 issue and how you feel is very personal. If my e2 is at the upper end of the range or over I feel like crap, can’t get it up etc. . I need mine to be right at the lower limit of the range to feel good - for me to stay there I have to take 40mg daily of Aromasin (an insanely high dose). Arimidex, letro none of them work - for me that is. This is also something that has changed over time. Wasn’t like this when I started on gear. To add to the confusion, if you on Tren and you run the e2 test at Lancet (not sure about other labs) e2 number is garbage (last time I ran test on Tren the number was 4000) - I reran it to check - same result yet felt fine on 40mg Aromasin.

Moral ofthe story, advice from all of us is fabulous to get a rough idea but at the end of the day a reference range is an average for a population, you are individual. With gear we are messing with out HPTA axis so should expect individual outcomes that may differ from the average. I may be average height and within the reference range for 95% of the population. That doesn’t make someone that’s over 2m abnormal needing surgery to correct their height problem. They are just individual. You have to figure yourself out. And it may change over time. Take someone like Skip Hill (you may or may not know who he is, google him). He had been on gear for years and years with no impact on his red blood cell count. Then it changed and he had to run at most TRT. My 10c
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