super test cycle

Jayman
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04 Jan 2010 13:00 #32261 by Jayman

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hey guys, hope you all had a great new years and christmas

here is my proposed cycle that I'm gonna start next week monday as soon as I get all my goodies. please could you guys offer advice on it?
also since the super test from pgw is pretty new I thought this could serve as a nice little thread for any1 wanting to try it in future cycles.

week 1-10: super test @ 640mg/week (320mg/ml monday and thursday)
week 1-4: d-bol @ 40mg/day (added this in from reviews from others saying that the short esters in the super test don't really help to kick start the cycle)

PCT:
week 12-14: HCG @ 500iu's 3x/week
week 12-16: kessar @ 20mg/day

Cannot wait!!! :bounce

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SNOK1986
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04 Jan 2010 13:17 #32262 by SNOK1986

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Looks pretty good - i wud add equi but thats just me, get good results from it.

Let us know the results, keen to try the super test in my next cycle.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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DoberMan
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04 Jan 2010 14:31 #32269 by DoberMan

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I'll be starting something very similiar from the 1st week of Feb, except that i'm frontloading with equi.

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spike
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04 Jan 2010 22:39 #32366 by spike

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Jay that looks spot on, tho i'd also add the equi for a little extra something, but then you'd need to run for longer than ten weeks.
The Dbol is a must, im currently in week ten of my supertest and equi cycle and the gains were pretty slow, in hindsight would def have added Dbol for frontload. Good thing i got five more weeks to cement some solid gains.

Doberman, explain frontloading with equi? Its also a long halflife and takes forever to kick in?

Um, but im scared of needles...

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Jayman
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05 Jan 2010 07:58 #32418 by Jayman

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thanx for the advice guys, was originally thinking to add in either eq or maybe deca but with this being my first proper cycle I thought it would be better to just stick with the test.

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Empire
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05 Jan 2010 08:02 #32420 by Empire

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spike wrote:

Doberman, explain frontloading with equi? Its also a long halflife and takes forever to kick in?

he is going to be doing a 22week cycle so the first 10weeks is just equi and hcg and maybe an oral such as tbol,after 10weeks when the equi is kicking nicely he will add in test at 2-3mls a week...

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spike
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05 Jan 2010 09:03 #32427 by spike

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@ dj

ok fair enough, thats a laka long cycle that.
Was just a bit confused there seen as we were talking about Dbol frontloading. Awesome

Um, but im scared of needles...

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Jayman
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05 Jan 2010 09:23 #32432 by Jayman

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@ spike - being in week 10 now what have you're results been like so far?
and sorry to ask this again but it was just a super test and eq cycle right?

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spike
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05 Jan 2010 09:30 #32434 by spike

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Yeah, 640mg of supertest and 350mg equi.

Results have been slow, took a while for the kick to come, but by week 6 my strength was up bigtime (up 30kg on bench).
Didnt pick any weight at first, but hardened up quite a bit and could notice a difference in the mirror. Also think the holidays affected my eating a bit. Now i've just gone up a bit, 2 kg so far but hopefully more to come seen as we past all the holidays now.

Um, but im scared of needles...

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Jayman
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05 Jan 2010 09:42 #32436 by Jayman

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and you're diet? how many calories a day are you taking in?

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spike
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05 Jan 2010 16:13 #32498 by spike

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clearly not enough...

Thinking bout adding a massbuilder for last couple weeks to help up the calories

Um, but im scared of needles...

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DoberMan
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06 Jan 2010 08:28 #32569 by DoberMan

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DJ is correct, 22 week cycle. Equi takes 10 weeks to start being effective, so taking it for 10 weeks with HCG to prevent shutdown. After that i'll be hitting the supertest, probably 3 shots of 1ml per week to try get the best out of the Prop component of the Super. Just coming back from a nasty shoulder injury that was so painful i couldn't even scratch my balls with my left hand, so need all the help i can get from my cycle.

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BigW
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07 Jan 2010 22:17 #32829 by BigW

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Just started today my cycle of deca 350 and supertest 320 - was off for long long time 4 months. Very excited about this, but have decided not to take an oral as a kick start is always great but water is not, dont know if i'm making the right decision but I am going to try it out i think... if anyone can highly suggest why i must kickstart with an oral please let me know.. 1ml of each twice weekly.. strict diet!

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BB_guy
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07 Jan 2010 22:35 #32831 by BB_guy

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700mg of Deca and 620mg Test ???
Most would say to keep the Deca roughly half the test.

You could just frontload the test, making your first pin of Test +-1000mg to 1200mg, wich would get your test levels up relatively sooner.

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spike
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07 Jan 2010 22:38 #32832 by spike

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i would def throw in a kickstart, the supertest is quite biased towards the long esters...
Personal preference really but im an impatient guy and i wanna see and feel results from the start. Took about 6 weeks before i started to notice the supertest on my cycle, same dosage as you

Um, but im scared of needles...

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spike
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07 Jan 2010 22:41 #32834 by spike

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oh sh1t, didnt even see that deca dosage.. mm, that is rather high for the test... dont want no floppy winky syndrome do ya? Test frontload would work, or the oral of your choice...

Um, but im scared of needles...

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BB_guy
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07 Jan 2010 22:49 #32836 by BB_guy

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spike wrote:

floppy winky syndrome

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: good description mate

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SNOK1986
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08 Jan 2010 09:06 #32877 by SNOK1986

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BigW wrote:

if anyone can highly suggest why i must kickstart with an oral please let me know.. 1ml of each twice weekly.. strict diet!

Kick start with dbol to get ur test high quickly so u see results quicker rather than later.
Keep the deca at max 500mg a week or u gonna get lots of water and deca dick.
Dbol and deca at 700mg will full u up with water and u will look like a water baloon. Hence keep the deca at max 500mg or even just 350mg a week.
Maybe include an A.I, adex or letrozole for the water.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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SNOK1986
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08 Jan 2010 09:17 #32878 by SNOK1986

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week 1 - 4 do dbol 10mg tabs week 1 take 4pills than from2nd week take 3pills.
week 1 - 10/12 do 2mls super test @ 640mg a week
week 1 - 10/12 do 1 or 1.2mls deca @ 350mg or 500mg a week (i would do 350mg a week)

Include an A.I from day one of either letro or adex everyday.

PCT

U can either start using pregnyl from about the 7th week at low low dosages to combat the deca from shutting u down or start a week after last pin.
Include clomid after last pin of pregnyl. 5 days on 5 days off 5 days on.

Cycle + PCT = time off

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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Inja
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08 Jan 2010 09:37 #32883 by Inja

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floppy winky syndrome

Just to comment, floppy winky syndrome results from conversion of nandrolone to a weak DHT derivative which poorly stimulates the androgen receptor, harsh shut down of natural testosterone production, and high progestagenic effects in the presence of poor estrogenic effects.

Having a sufficient amount of testosterone or other compound that provides DHT and estrogen usually goes a long way to preventing Deca dick regardless of the Deca dosage.
But then again at high doses ancillary drugs come into play which can then exacerbate the situation.

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BigW
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09 Jan 2010 13:04 #32964 by BigW

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Thanks ppl makes sense, lucky i got super dick syndrome and never ever really experienced otherwise! but i would prefer not to get deca dick haha! ok everyone rants and raves about diana but what about anapolan for the first 3 weeks, 1 tab a day instead of 4 diny a day ? whats your opinion here..

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Jayman
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11 Jan 2010 08:36 #33104 by Jayman

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just a quick update:
had my first shot this morning, injected into the outer quad.
Injection was almost 100% painless and all went smoothly.
Also starting off 2day with 30mg d-bol :nana2

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admin
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11 Jan 2010 08:41 #33107 by admin

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BigW wrote:

Thanks ppl makes sense, lucky i got super dick syndrome and never ever really experienced otherwise! but i would prefer not to get deca dick haha! ok everyone rants and raves about diana but what about anapolan for the first 3 weeks, 1 tab a day instead of 4 diny a day ? whats your opinion here..

Sure, why not use Apanpolon for the first 3 weeks... works great for me as long as I use my liver supps everything is fine...

2 tabs a day also is pretty safe...

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BigW
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13 Jan 2010 19:49 #33530 by BigW

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Thanks admin, ok so tomorrow will be one week and I never got any orals after all that but i have picked up 3kgs at the doses of 1ml deca 350 and 1 ml supertest 320 last thursday and this monday. Strength is avg not as strong as would be with anap but no harm in working back up each week.. im only doing this for 4 weeks and then all is used up, i will see how i feel after that, i want to get another 4 week bulking cycle so this will be a 8 week course, anyone got sum suggestions ? i was thinking equi and... hmmm and ??? what test.. maybe still supertest ?

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Inja
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13 Jan 2010 21:09 #33541 by Inja

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Excuseme? YOur running the Deca and Supertest for 4 weeks? No no son, go back to steroids school, you got it all wrong. You need at least 8 weeks for those long esters to kick in! Get more Deca and super test or test cyp or enan, and continue the cycle as is. What you've gained so far in those 4 weeks is mostly water...

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