Questions re: new cycle

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15 May 2008 09:00 #3414 by Netro
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As a rule of thumb lads and as Conan has said, do not use kessar with 19-Nor compounds ( Nandralones and Trens etc) There is a very good change of the progesterone sides being more prominent and worse. Kessar also makes Deca less effective!

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15 May 2008 09:25 #3416 by jackrabbit1
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I decided to rup Test Prop for another month after ending the NPP(HCG etc). Do you think i will run into trouble this long after stopping NPP if i use Kessar? I will also be using Proviron during PCT.

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15 May 2008 09:34 #3417 by Netro
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Let me answer that with another question. Do you want to chance it? The ester is short on that Nandrolone, so it should be ok, but again, you want to take the chance? Rather use A-Dex and be safe both ways.

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15 May 2008 09:45 #3419 by jackrabbit1
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I have adex for incase...., but won't Proviron lower estrogen anyway?
Would the NPP still be a problem this long after the last shot even after HCG?

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15 May 2008 09:50 #3420 by Netro
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It should'nt considering the short ester, but Nandrolone is detectable in your urine for up to 18 months (if memory serves), not sure how much of that can still convert. Maybe Conan or another mod will be able to cast some light here.

When was your last shot? Can't find it in here (NPP)

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15 May 2008 10:53 #3426 by jackrabbit1
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Still on cycle. My plan is to stop NPP and carry on with the Prop for 4-5 weeks to get the HCG cycle in without too many variables. The last week of HCG i will up the dose to 750iu twice a week and will have to start using Kessar with that(This is in conjunction with Prop at 100mg EOD).

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22 May 2008 10:25 #3580 by admin
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I found this on the BB.com website somewhere... can anyone tell me what it means?
Is the effect of Letro reduced when combined with Tamoxifen, but Tamoxifen is not affected by the Letro?

Boeddinghaus IM, Dowsett M. Comparative clinical pharmacology and pharmacokinetic interactions of aromatase inhibitors. J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2001 Dec;79(1-5):85-91.

"A pharmacokinetic interaction has been established between letrozole and tamoxifen, whereby reduced circulating levels of letrozole are found with combined application. Neither anastrozole nor letrozole have any effect on plasma concentrations of tamoxifen when given in combination with it."

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22 May 2008 12:14 #3585 by Conan
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Admin thats correct the letro and anastro effects are reduced by the kessar (tamoxifen) but they (letro and anastro)dont seem to affect the plasma levels of Kessar - but thats where the problem lies as the letro and anastro are alomost ten times more expensive and probably ten times more effective,now you would'nt want to waste the good pricey stuff,would you?(would'nt be that much of a problem if the situation was reversed)

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22 May 2008 12:19 #3586 by admin
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Ahh, that's what I thought and yes I don't want to waste any A-Dex or Letro... that's why I asked in the fist place. Thanks for clearing it up bro.

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27 May 2008 14:20 #3804 by mazzal
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Thanks for the posts guys! :-)

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