Lt3 & Clenbuterol

ok now the next thing on my mind, how do i split up my doasages of the t3? do i take it all at once in the morning or do i split it up during the day? what is the latest time i can take it etc etc etc. i am following this pattern of taking it www.saanabolicreview.co.za/cycles/Tertroxin%20Cycle.html

also i have managed to sell the winstrol i had bought and i am going to buy 100anavar caps from PGW, i would taking 40mg be better than taking 20mg winstrol 20mg anavar daily?the reason for the change is i am just a bit worried about the winstrol making my joints take strain..oh this is anavar is going to be combined with 300mg of equipoise a week...

ok seeing that i am taking AAS that do not really have major androgenic sides can i do this, 10mg of nolvadex through out the course of anabolics and 20mg for the first 3 weeks afterwards? was going to do pregnly 5000iu a week for 3 weeks and then clomid for 5 days,followed by 5 days off followed by 5days on. i know that this may seem over kill but i'd rather rehab properly this time in order to maintain gains

greetings djeasye.

you sound like a guy from internet solutions that i know.

sorry dude,think u got the wrong person,unless his name is also Ian

Split up your doses of T3 evenly through out the day, but try not to take it too late at night - the insomnia it causes, is a bit of a bitch...

doc just a question,what is the longest time i can be on t3? i see that you say that if you take more than 60ug a day it will just cancel out your anabolic support,now the course posted up on sa-anabolic review recommends going up to 80ug? can i jsut keep it at 60ug for say a couple days extra? i heard that HCG helps with thyroid recovery?well there was an article in muscle evolution i think...

HcG???? huh- I have a look.....Anyway Personaly I dont run t3 over 6 weeks and last time I ran it was about 5-T3 SHOULDNT be the staple of a cutting mix but rather something you ad at the end when ur really lean already and u wanna get freakishly ripped. ECA, clen, cardio and good diet can get you down to 5-6% easy when done right. and on that note a prefer a good ECA like HEAT above Clen anyday of the week

sorry dont think it was HCG but there was an article about thyroid recovery,it was in the issue with heinrich vos on the cover...

Article was written by Anthony Roberts. It is more a postulate than exact scientific data - kinda anecdotal actually...
Most people don't need thyroid repair - I have numerous studies showing that healthy thyroids "bounce" back within 2-4 weeks after T3/T4 was stopped. I have mentioned this previously - ALWAYS slowly taper off T3/T4 - Never just stop when you are taking high doses. Some cycles will use T3 as much as 100mcg per day - that's a bit rough. I found the average over years to be somewhere between 40-60mcg pd. How long can you use it? Anything from 6 weeks till longer - some athletes use it upto 10 consecutive months. Usually, because they run HGH that long at the same time. When should you be careful of too long T3 cycles? When you are prone to be hypothyroidic, meaning your thyroid on blood tests show up as being too slow, then you should take care to Thyroid Repair/PCT better.

ok doc,i couldnt get hold of anavar,unfortunate circumstances have delayed shipping. Would turanabol be a good option to use? i have done some reading on it saying that the anabolic ratio out of 100 is 53 and the androgenic ratio is 6.so it is not as strong as var but would it be just as good?
i hate taken it before and i enjoyed the strength increase and lean mass i gained...

Yes, good alternative - if you can get hold of it...

can do t-bolic from global anabolics what a winner...

About the T3 thingy - have a look - somewhere I posted comments on T4/T3, Ephadrine/Caffeine/Solal Thyroid Repair-cycling. The answer to your question can be found there...

yes doc i read it,it was in reply to kraz...i am learning so much from this forum its amazing...

Day 1 Clen 40 mcg / T3 25 mcg
Day 2 Clen 40 mcg / T3 25 mcg
Day 3 Clen 40 mcg / T3 25 mcg
Day 4 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day 5 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day 6 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day 7 Clen 80 mcg / T3 75 mcg
Day 8 Clen 80 mcg / T3 75 mcg
Day 9 Clen 100 mcg / T3 75 mcg
Day 10 Clen 100 mcg / T3 100 mcg
Day 11 Clen 100 mcg / T3 100 mcg
Day 12 Clen 120 mcg / T3 100 mcg
Day 13 Clen 120 mcg / T3 75 mcg
Day 14 Clen 100 mcg / T3 75 mcg
Day 15 Clen 100 mcg / T3 75 mcg
Day 16 Clen 80 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day 17 Clen 80 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day 18 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day 19 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25 mcg
Day 20 Clen 40 mcg / T3 25 mcg
Day 21 Clen 40 mcg / T3 25 mcg


what do u guys think of this stack?

why do u have to tapper down the clen?

jo1 wrote:

why do u have to tapper down the clen?

this is a rather good question,but i saw that post on another forum so i thought i would ask about it...

Doctari wrote:

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- use thyrosine and guggulsterones during this period and continue for at least 4 weeks with it. Here a good product is Thyroid Repair, produced by Solal/Fine.
- use your BHCG and clomiphene - this greatly enhances recovery.
- there is a homeopathic injection made by the house of Heel; it's called Thyroidea and you use it 3 amps per week for 2 weeks and then 2 amps per week for the last 2 weeks.

good day doc,(or anyone who could give me a hand on this,conan,mxt,netro,admin???)welcome back,i have been reading your threads again and i have a question. the thyroidea,must it be taken in conjunction with the solal thyroid repair or can it be taken on its own,i took the thyroid repair last time i did a t3 cycle and it worked like a charm!!

also you commented on t3 cycling 2 days t3 2days eca&kelp&thyroid repair by solal, now the i am trying to work with the dosages of t3 with this principle, 60ug's would the max i would go up to,i did 60ug last time and it worked like a charm but also like u said insomnia was something chronic... was wondering if this is the correct way of doing this

2 days 20 ug t3
2 days eca/kelp/solal
2 days 20 ug t3
2 days eca/kelp/solal
2 days 40ug t3
2 days eca/kelp/solal
2 days 40ug t3
2 days eca/kelp/solal
2 days 60 ug t3
2 days eca/kelp/solal
so on and so forth,and then odviously tapering down the t3 down to 20 ug's a day for a week or two to taper down odviously...


could i do this for close on 6-8 weeks? and would the results be similar to that of taking t3 continuously for the same period of time,this stack would be in combination with an AAS cycle of nandro prop(300mg a week),test prop(400mg a week)anavar 60mg a day for 5 weeks and two weeks prior to the nandro prop,test prop i will be taking 2 anavar caps on its own. i have got pregnyl and clomid as my pct and will be trying to get hold of kessar to go with the pct.

what are your thought on this?have i got the correct idea on how t3 cycling thing works?

Greetings,

I started a cycle of tertoxin and clen to burn as much fat on my diet as possible. Been training for nine months solid and got off a bulking cycle one month ago. I did PCT and seem to keeping all my weight.. I don't have much fat but I seem to be gaining a little weight? My calorie diet is around 2,800 a day.. which i think is fairly restricted. Also I seem to be getting fairly weak while on this cycle. 40kgs less on the bench, from 35 curles down to 25 and 30 at most.. I have noticed that I am not loosing any weight.. I run for 20minutes a day on a tredmill, but lately I seem to be getting a pump in my calves that prevent me from running and while on this cycle i feel out of breath and like my heart is racing. Stamina is gone down terribly.. The pump in the calves normally happen while on D-Bols.. which makes sense.. but the pump is getting a little more severe now to a point where I cant work out. This happens on my biceps and triceps as well.. Its like I get a burning kind of pump sensation? I still look the same and not lost any muscle, just stamina...

I never had this problem, so I assume I am doing something wrong? Could it be the clen, tertoxin? Should I be restricting my diet even more?

Personally I got better results using HEAT ECA (which i cant find anywhere anymore)..

Any training advice for burning fat? Is 20 minutes "running" sufficient per day?

Hope you guys can help out! I am still a bit of a newbie...

Check here:
www.steroid.com/Clenbuterol.php

Clenbuterol Side effects
Also, bear in mind that clenbuterol has some side effects. It isn´t great for your heart, and can cause some issues there (enlargement of ventricles, etc, ) but most studies showing clen to cause heart problems are with animals, and even though the dosing is almost similar to what humans take (in some studies it´s within the range of what would be double of a large human dose...) it´s important to remember that animals have more beta-2 receptors and they cause certain event chains that humans´ beta-2 receptors may not. Clen causes cardiac hypertrophy and cardiac necrosis (cell death) to some degree, in some cases. Again though, many studies showing the more significant, possibly irreversible, heart problems are with mg dosing. We humans take clen in mcg doses.

If we want to duplicate those "theraputic" levels of clen seen in the more conservative studies, we´d still be taking just over 1mcg/lb of bodyweight, twice a day. I´d suggest a bit less than half of that dose, however.

Performance issues with clen also vary. Some studies show reduced exercise (cardiovascular) performance with clen (9), while some show that clen can alleviate exercise induced asthma (10)!Clearly, this compound will have different effects on different people, and I suspect that a lot of it is sports specific. Many bodybuilders claim that clen makes it difficult for them to do cardio, yet I can play a full game of rugby on it. You need to figure out how it affects you, and tailor your dose personally.

Finally, this brings me to the issue of cramps while on clen. I don´t get them. My friends don´t get them. Most of us are athletes who use clen during the season as well as the off season, and one of my friends even claims that it gives him more "wind" (cardiovascular stamina). Take on enough water every day and you should be fine. If you´re really concerned, you can take some extra minerals and taurine, since clen depletes taurine (11) as do most if not all beta-agonists. I don´t take anything more than my usual vitamins and minerals.

good day vision, first things first are u running t3 and clen with out anabolics???? also what dosage of t3 are u taking i suggest that if u not taking anabolics u dont even think about t3.if u are running a mild cycle (400mg test & another anabolic) then i wouldnt suggest running more than 40mcg of t3. its gonna chew your muscle up like u cant believe. u are suffering from a lack of stamina coz if u not running anabolics then u are definantly loosing muscle. clen does give u massive pumps,i found that i cramp and do get decent pumps on clen...swop your running for something like the fly walker(orbitrec,cross trainer) or rowing machine,maybe that will help with the calve cramps? also how intense is your "running" it should be pretty intense to get your heart rate up inorder to burn that fat off...

Thanks for the replies! Indeed, but why am I not loosing any weight? Even if its muscle? I am in week 4 already. The only thing I get is burning muscle pumps and racing heart.. I feel out of breath sometimes too.

Think maybe I should stay away from this stuff for now, going to try make the best of what ever I have left.

email me your diet and i will help u out there vision... i need ur stats aswell,age,weight,height etc etc and ur training programme would be good... remove the spaces as there is lotsa spam coming my way

Take note of the taurine supplementation while on clen, helps with cramps and the B12/BCo combo for energy also helps.

@Jackrabbit,
Good post bro, most guys just zero in on the fat burning properties and discard the rest.

I'm on my second week of clen and I've experienced most of the sides mentioned but its not so bad. They get manageable as they occur so that after a while you don't get any problems.

Some lengthy posts I've lifeted from clutchfitness.com follow below.