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needToJumpOnCourse wrote: Cool I understand, shake before bed. Well I usually train around lunch time anyway, so meal 6 would be my last.
Milk is there any other advice you could give me? regarding what I asked stuart?
Save up and do a beginner's bulking cycle. Check the Cycle Discussion area for info on beginner's cycles. Mostly Test and D-Bol.
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Week 1-10: 500mg Test Cyp (1ml on monday and thursday of Nomad???)
Week 1 - 10: Aromasin 12.5 mg E4D ?????? im confused here, cant get arimidex?? unsure of dosage.
Week 3 - 11: HCG 200 IU's twice a week (should it be different days to test shots?)
PCT (wait one week after last test shot??????)
Week 12: Clomid 50 mg/day
Week 13-16: Nolva 20mg/day
Since I plan to use aromasin throughout cycle, will i need it during pct as well?
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needToJumpOnCourse wrote: Okay, here is reviewed cycle:
Week 1-10: 500mg Test Cyp (1ml on monday and thursday of Nomad???)
Week 1 - 10: Aromasin 12.5 mg E4D ?????? im confused here, cant get arimidex?? unsure of dosage.
Week 3 - 11: HCG 200 IU's twice a week (should it be different days to test shots?)
PCT (wait one week after last test shot??????)
Week 12: Clomid 50 mg/day
Week 13-16: Nolva 20mg/day
Since I plan to use aromasin throughout cycle, will i need it during pct as well?
No, no, no stay away from Nomad if you can. It is underdosed and all their products are full of benzyl alcohol which make the shots extremely painful. If you still want to be able to sit down and walk, I would stay away from Nomad! Get PGW or Global Anabolics - my two favourites.
Why do you want to run Aromasin during your cycle. Keep it for PCT. If you want a anti-estrogen or SERM on-cycle like arimidex then rather go for Letrozole or even Nolvadex. This will combat the estrogenic side-effects (gyno, achne) and reduce water retention from the test.
HCG doesn't have to be on different days to your test shots. I would also run it for 1-2 weeks longer.
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okay, HCG 2 weeks longer
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SO:
Week 1-10: 500mg Test Cyp (1ml on monday and thursday)
Week 1 - 10: Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD / Letro????
Week 3 - 12: HCG 200 IU's twice a week (shouldn't i skip the week when im taking clomid?)
PCT (wait one week after last test shot????????????? is my timing correct here?
Week 12: Clomid 50 mg/day
Week 13-16: Nolva 20mg/day
Week 13-16: Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
This getting better?
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Are you prone to gyno/ache? Why the necessity to run an anti-estrogen during cycle. I only keep anti-estrogens on hand in case of side-effects. It's entirely up to you and how safe you want to play it. Just seems like bit of an overkill to me at the dosages you are running.
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Here's a cycle that will be ideal
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- Used to free up natural testosterone thus increases libido
- It makes other steroids more effective by preventing their conversion into estrogen.
- Can be used as a mild anti-estrogen to help manage estrogen related side effects
- Has a lipolytic effect on adipose tissue - fat burning properties
- Helps reduce water retention
- Provides a more hardened and quality look to muscles
Proviron is not effective on it's own and is usually stacked with armoatizable steroids such as test.
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im getting very excited!And i will look into letro to manage estrogen if that gets nasty!
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At 500mg its unlikely.
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So that 40mg daily would = 2*(LP) proviron 20mg.
Gyno -
A friend of mine recently picked up some gyno while on a high test only cycle with deca he was running 1500mg's test cyp and 1000mg's per week of deca.His area around his nipples started to swell up and his nipple grew thicker like a chicks.His chest also sags a little bit.But lukily i pointed it out to him and he is now running letro and proviron to combat the gyno.He is running 2.5mg's per day of letro to combat the estrogen side's.He told me after 2 weeks his sex drive was completely gone.Well i suppose those are the dangers of gyno first hand.
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Thanks for all the info dude! I can get the 25 mg schering tabs. would it be okay to take 1 a day then? I dont think i will taking doses anywhere near that, so I should be okay - but I'll keep those signs in mind when i decide what to run!
@ stuart, I have reviewed everything here, i will spending a little while planning the cycle and will post a reviewed cycle here in a week or so. You'll all be glad to know I'm going the test route
Testosterone FTW!Okay, I would like to know more about supertest 320 (PGW), I dont want to go the route of any orals this cycle, besides running proviron. So I've read a little on it here, apparently very painful. But im interested in a blend test as it would mean I wouldnt have to frontload with an oral and see gains from the shorter esters of the test? Any views here guys?
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Well Im not a baby, so I think supertest is the way for me this cycle

So what would the pinning protocol be? Since it contains prop would I need EOD shots to take advantage of the short ester? Say 0.4ml EOD, if my calculations are correct that would level out to about 460mg/week?
I have seen other threads where shots are twice a week (monday thursday protocol)?
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