Furk's TRT and Cycle Log

Hahaha, ok fair play Psy I've that youtube channel before, I don't really like that guy, I've come across another decent channel that I prefer, but just watched a few extracts to see what to expect.

Going back to measuring body-fat, most Intercare centres are equipped with means to do the Discovery Vitality health checks, I got a calliper test done there in December.

Do you rate that intercare calliper test my bro?

I think all tests can be misleading - But...

If the tests are conducted in a consistent manner under consistent circumstances then any change in the values has potential meaning. Although with skin fold measurements, water loss/retention can also be a misleading factor.

However, all thing being equal, if the values are going in the right direction, you're on the right track.

Ultimately though, the mirror/pics can be the best measure of progress.

Nate40 wrote: Do you rate that intercare calliper test my bro?

3 point calliper test, I didn't trust result (felt fatter). The 6 point calliper should be a lot more accurate. Anyway, this thread is not about discussing body fat lol.

Started TRT. Woke up with a raging boner for the first time for what must be years. Dammit, I'm male again!

TMI :blush:

NICE!!!

Oupiel wrote: TMI :blush:

NICE!!!

Oupiel, sorry man accidently stole some karma :pinch: will give it back tomorrow

Furk wrote: Started TRT. Woke up with a raging boner for the first time for what must be years. Dammit, I'm male again!

Haha, well alrighty then.

So already seeing a change after a single shot. Awesome!!
Now for some serious gains to follow

Also thanks for the Intercare info, will check them out. One not too far from me ^^

If its up make sure you use it my bro haha

Oupiel wrote: TMI :blush:

NICE!!!

I have no shame. Eager to clean up my diet and set a goal. Time to reach my (artificial) natural limit.

So it's been a while since on TRT. Gained a lot of weight, mostly fat due toe being over ambitious. I'll just go no-hold fat loss for a couple of weeks. So one of the effects of extreme calories restriction over a long time period will be suppressed hormones. If I am already on TRT, by how much can I cut calories? Thinking of klaping 1000 cals a day to see how fat loss goes. Will this hurt muscle? Keep in mind I am on TRT (test cyp).

Just my thoughts / opinion...

Yes it will hurt muscle.

I see it like bike tires - they only like to do 1 thing at a time i.e. accelerate, brake or turn.
Try doing both and the crash get closer.

Same with muscle i.e. gain muscle (or even hold muscle) while in severe calorie debt = crash, you'll lose muscle.

Although, Kevin Levrone seemed to get it right, but he was using more than TRT doses.

No not necessary mate, you can manipulate meals to work to loosing fat and gaining weight. The net effect of a meal determines what happens. It can be a anabolic meal or it can have a net catabolic effect (can't cite anything from my phone now sorry).

For example, consume vast majority of calories around workout (protein and carbs, and other meals consist of fibre and small amounts of protein and fat.

Okay, so say I up my TRT dosage to a cycle equivalent and increase my daily cals to something less drastic.

Furk wrote: Okay, so say I up my TRT dosage to a cycle equivalent and increase my daily cals to something less drastic.

I recon that will work.
It' will just be a matter of finding your sweet spot; a dose/calorie balancing act.

Furk wrote: So it's been a while since on TRT. Gained a lot of weight, mostly fat due toe being over ambitious. I'll just go no-hold fat loss for a couple of weeks. So one of the effects of extreme calories restriction over a long time period will be suppressed hormones. If I am already on TRT, by how much can I cut calories? Thinking of klaping 1000 cals a day to see how fat loss goes. Will this hurt muscle? Keep in mind I am on TRT (test cyp).

Hey bud

Mind sharing your trt dose and injection protocol. Are you also using any AI's or anything with it?

Testosterone Cypionate 100 mg per week. But I pin 50mg bi-weekly to ensure stable blood levels. I have Aromasin on hand but I shouldn't ever need it unless I blast. Been reading so many positive things about Equipoise, I'm considering using it in a blast later the year. Anyway, still in the pipeline.

Furk wrote: Testosterone Cypionate 100 mg per week. But I pin 50mg bi-weekly to ensure stable blood levels. I have Aromasin on hand but I shouldn't ever need it unless I blast. Been reading so many positive things about Equipoise, I'm considering using it in a blast later the year. Anyway, still in the pipeline.

I'm currently on Nebido and not a fan really trying to convince the doc to switch over to cyp as well. Keep us updated on any changes and so on, also good luck with your goals.

On your other q about upping dose maybe just double what you using now making you more anabolic and eat maintenance for a few weeks and then only add cardio to burn fat.

Looking forward to your blasting cycles too..

I'll probably go on Nebido soon also, as dictated by my travel schedule, being out of the country etc. Why don't you like the Nebido? (other than the price obviously)

The drop towards the end before your next injection, personal good till about week 8-9 then i can feel the test levels are low.

Fakey_AK wrote: The drop towards the end before your next injection, personal good till about week 8-9 then i can feel the test levels are low.

Are you pinning yourself?
If so, what about halving the dose & doubling the frequency?

So guess from tomorrow I'll go full keto and pull out all my fat loss tricks, maybe take before and after pics - people love pictures for some reason

Either way, all strength and size gone up a notch from my time on test so far. All lifts improved, if not in weight then in reps. Ciao.

Hey gents, planning on doing a blast later the year. Test Cyp and Equi, maybe with T-bol kicker and Var bridge. My question is when considering the dosages, where should I aim for total weekly injectables? Do should I just run each compound at the recommended dose?

In the sample cycles, the Beginner Bulk comes to 250mg test per week. But the Intermediate lean mass and strength cycle comes to 1050mg injectables per week, and the Intermediate bulking cycle comes to 1025mg injectables? Am I right in saying that it comes down to body mass and steroid experience?

I was thinking of a Test Cyp 250mg /week and Equipoise 400mg/ week. That seem okay? Cheers in advance.

I'd up the Test to 500mg a week the beginners bulking cycle is 250 every 4 days but Monday/Thursday will make it easier.
250mg is to low if you want to pick up some meat.

Sweet thanks Rhino. TestCyp 500mg/ week + Equipoise 400mg/week.

Sounds good!
Where the before pics legend?