First cycle in 4 years!!

Hi Guys

I Have decided to start with a cycle in January or February 2016. and YESSSSSS i was stupid 4 years ago.
Been stuck at 104 KG for a year now, just cutting down very slowly over time.
Looking to fill up all these loose skin because i lost like 30kg in a very short period a few years back.The loose skin just doesn't seem to shrink back and makes me look and feel fat as hell.

Training experience : 7 years
Age: 22
Weight: 104KG
Height: 1.79m

Weight training 5 days a week
Cardio 3-4 times a week (Mix of HIIT and Steady state on seperate days)

Current Macros
Protein : 200-250g (Depends because of Carb cycling)
Carbs: 160-280g (Depends because of Carb cycling)
Fat : 40-70g (Depends because of Carb cycling)

Planning on going with the following

Test enanthate 250mg 500mg pw 1-12
HCG 250IU 2PW 1-14
Arimidex 0.5mg eod 1-14

Tbol 60-80mg ed 1-4 OR
Var 60-100mg ed 1-6 or 9-14 OR

Tbol for frontload and Var at the end at the above dosages



If you guys think i should maybe wait a bit more before i do a cycle.... im open for advice

Moer seuna jy's groot vir jou ouderdom. Wat's jou geskiedenis met die sous, jy sê jy was dom of 18, net verkeerde advies gevat?

Jy kan gerus Tbol en Var doen. Tbol vir 'n kicker Var vir jou brug periode. Ek sal sê 80mg Tbol is onnodig, meste kom reg met 40mg. Var werk goed op 60/80mg, meer as dit dink ek nie lê 'n groot voordeel nie, beter om minder vir langer te vat. Ek verstaan nie jou dosis vir die enanthanate nie.

Haha dankie!Werk hard en eet goed en kry genoeg slaap in.... Dink ek groei net dalk vinnig? nee man net prohormones gevat vir so n rukkie (Daai super anadrol en sulke goed) . en 500mg test E n week ( 250mg 2 keer n week)

Dink hy meen sy produk is 250mg/ml en hy gaan 2ml/500mg pw pin.

BullD9 wrote: Looking to fill up all these loose skin because i lost like 30kg in a very short period a few years back.The loose skin just doesn't seem to shrink back and makes me look and feel fat as hell.

The only real solution for that is surgery.

Jah... And thats what i dont want... The doctors keep on saying it WILL shrink back... But damn... Taking long now haha

For interest sake, what is your bodyfat % like?

Was measured in December at 12.4% at a bio-kinetics guy. But i highly doubt it... for me it looks like i am 15%.

Bud I don't mean to sound like a hater But most Bio's know dick about BF. If your worried about your loose skin I can almost guaranty you the measurements are Way off.
At your height and weight and coming from such an obese weight there isn't a snow balls chance in hell you have a LBM of over 90 because in that case your carrying more muscle than Ifbb athletes at your height :blink:

Post picks and we'll be able to gauge for you because all the cycle advice and Carb cycling plans that you want advice on need more accurate Stats than your giving us.

Yeah i understand what you saying. Also not thinking that i am near 12.4%. Well the mirror doesn't agree with that amount in my opinion. Give me a few minutes and i will post them

Okay... How do i post a pic?

Okay, here are those photos.

Dont judge too heavy haha :S

[img]http://C:\Users\Ivan\Desktop\Screenshot_2015-09-14-08-14-43.jpg[/img][img]http://C:\Users\Ivan\Desktop\Screenshot_2015-09-14-08-15-48[1].jpg[/img]

Ek dink jy het die fotos bietjie op getollie.
Upload jou fotos na iets soos TinyPic, dan post jy die link vir dit.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-gene...ictures-on-the-forum

okay die besigheid se netwerk laat my nie toe om op daai site te gaan nie.

Okay try these?

-REMOVED-

Just take out the http://

Paste the rest to Google chrome or whatever web browser you are using

Just tried it

BullD9 wrote: Just take out the http://

Paste the rest to Google chrome or whatever web browser you are using

Just tried it

BullD9 my friend, that's your computers physical hard drive. We can't remotely access your computer, we aren't on a LAN . File hosting works by uploading the document to a server on the Internet. Another option is to put it into your Google drive and make access public. Do you have the Tapatalk app on your phone? It's even easier with that.

bud, I'll be the honest guy...

you can not the fuck think of using any juice with that BF%... you are closer to 30%BF.
get yourself closer to 15%BF before you even consider using any AAS

ek dink jy moet n lekker diet moer, cardio moer en dan die sous! sterkte

Dankie baie! Wardeur die eerlikheid!Dan sal ek net nooit weer by n Biokinetikus enige iets laat doen nie... haha

Please take a look at my current diet in my other thread called ----Need to lose 4kg----

To be honest looking at where you are storing bodyfat you have some serious estrogen based fat patterns. If i was you,and u have to stay on your cycle, I would suggest u drop that test dosage down to 200mg a week which is more a trt dosage, and stick with 1/2mg of arimadex daily, but best way to see estrogen levels is by getting bloods done. That will keep u anabolic to a degree so uncan maintain muscle mass, and then u need to diet like all hell, ffrom your diet/macro breakdown i say that u are starting too low on the calorie scale. I would change your diet to 300-350g of protein split between 7 meals 200g of carbs split between 4 meals. Pre work out, during work out,post work out and 1 meal podt work out. Fats at about 110 split between 6 meals,only meal u dont have fats in is post work out which is protein and carbs only.

Change your diet to that for 2 weeks. Then access fat loss. Then if it is low, add in 20mins hiit cardio 4x a week. If that's not working,drop carbs by 25%. Then add in fatburners etc. Change 1 variable at a time so that you know which one is working.

Put up your training and we can see how to change it.

Okay cool will definitly upp my protein. Im just scared as hell for too much carbs... so i can do like a 100g pre workout, 50 post and another 50 after that?

Below is my current training program

First single digit is the number of sets and second digits is the rep ranges that i aim for

Maandag
Quads single leg extensionS 4 12...15
Quads Hack squat 4 12...15
Quads Squat 5 12...15
Quads Single leg press 3 12...15


Hamstrings single Hammi curl 4 12...15
Hamstrings Hammi curls 4 12...15
Hamstrings Single straight leg deadlift 3 12...15


Abs Landmines 4
Abs Leg raise 4
Oblique crunch 4

Teusday
Middle chest DB press 4 12...15
Middle chest Cable cross overs 3 12...15
Upper chest Incline bar press 4 12...15
Upper chest Incline db fly 4 12...15

Calves Donkey calve raise 4 25…30
Calves Single calve raises 3 12...15
Calves Seated Calve raise 4 20…25


Wednesday
Latissimus dorsi Single lat pulldown 3 12...15
Latissimus dorsi Lat pulldown 3 12...15
Latissimus dorsi DB bent over row 3 12...15
Upper Back Reverse bent over row 3 12...15
Upper Back Close grip seated row 3 12...15
Lower Back Deadlift 4 12...15


Abs Suitecase crunch 4 15...20
Abs Ball crunches 4 15...20
External oblique Side raises 4 15...20

Thursday
Front delts DB shoulder press 3 12...15
Front delts Db Front raise 3 12...15
Rear delts Bent over flies 3 12...15
Rear delts Face pull 3 15...20
Side delts DB Lateral raises 3 12...15
Traps DB shrugs 5 15...20


Calves Leg press calf raise 4 25…30
Calves Seated Calve raise 4 20…25
Calves Standing trio raises 3 15...20


Friday
Brachialis DB curls 3 12...15
Brachialis DB Incline curls 3 12...15
Brachialis Bar Curls 4 12...15
Brachi Radialis Inverted Hammer curls 5 12...15


Long Head Scull crusher 5 12...15
Medial head 1 Arm reverse pressdown 4 12...15
Lateral head Dips 3 Failure
Lateral head Kickbacks 3 12...15

Abs Cross body crunch 4 15...20
Abs Russian twist 4 15...20
External oblique Side raises 4 15...20

NOTE : all abs is to failure some days and other days with extra weights

And i am not struggling with strength at all. Doing higher reps and less recovery time