Huge pain from Sustanon 250 (Organon)

Ok I’m proud to say that the service from PGW is profound!!! They offered to test the product and replace the vial....

Anyone who is prepared to service 1 individual as myself in that manner is clear in my books a very reputable and trusted supplier... Those are the types of people I make sure I do business with in all aspects of my life. Each individual is just as valued as the next and will do all in their power to keep their name of the highest standards.

I'm not interested in a swop out they can have the vial for testing its only a couple hundred rand for the test.

Dam, if only i got the same service. I actually cant train from the pain my injections are giving me, therefore it is pointless to be on cycle. You try Squat with sore Glutes. My last Test Prop and NPP were fine, no pain, but with my latest and last batch, the only joy i am getting from it is PAIN!!!!!

I wonder why PGW don't put batch numbers on their
products. Might be useful for quality assurance
purposes.

Fedsdead wrote:

Hi All,

First post from me since joining up a while back.

I have a question regarding Sustanon 250 from Organon; Does it leave you with huge pain in the butt the following day and even more the next day?

I've been injecting 1ml Deca and 1.5ml NomaTest Combo, once a week for the last 5 weeks. Two days ago, for my last injection I switched to the same 1ml deca and then 2ml Suatanon 250 from Organon.

By yesterday afternoon there was a fair amount of pain in my left butt cheek and then last night and this morning it is excrutiating.

Two reasons, I know it was not the injection that caused the issue; one is that the injection felt perfect, no pain, no blood etc. It felt like normal. Second reason is that a friend of mine and I are on exactly the same cycle and he is experiencing exactly the same thing. We can barely walk, nevermind sit down.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

THanks all.

I have given this advice before and will give it again.
Load your syringe with both compounds and allow to stand for 20 mins so they can "mix".
This will allow for a better and smoother injection and does allot to guys who suffer from pain with oil based injections.
Some guys are more sensitive to BA than others and thus one dude injects no problem and the other guys have issues with pain and redness.
Another trick is to load your syringe and take a clean dish cloth, put it in the microwave for 2 mins and roll your loaded syringe (with the needle you used to draw the compounds attached) for 5 or so mins, draw some air as the oil might expand and leak.)
Put a new needle on to inject and away you go.

00pump wrote:

Ok I’m proud to say that the service from PGW is profound!!! They offered to test the product and replace the vial....

Anyone who is prepared to service 1 individual as myself in that manner is clear in my books a very reputable and trusted supplier... Those are the types of people I make sure I do business with in all aspects of my life. Each individual is just as valued as the next and will do all in their power to keep their name of the highest standards.

I'm not interested in a swop out they can have the vial for testing its only a couple hundred rand for the test.

That's great stuff Pumper!

Compliments to Precision

Lesa wrote:

Mr_SA wrote:

00pump wrote:

Hi..

Well not really sure as to why, but allot of people have said the same... maybe somebody has scientific reason as to why.....

hmmm, ive been feeling allot of pain from my new batch of PGW Test E.... I can't even sitdown at times, I have a feeling their is bacteria or something in this or something isn't clean, I doubt its the ammount of alchol used... I really feel something isn't right here..... and its nothing to do with the way I inject or anything to that effect..

I wont lie, i am also getting a LITTLE worried about PGW, as i am having the same issues with their products. Never had ANY discomforts with Nomad etc.

haha you must be joking why you even bringing up nomad its such rubish

Lesa , You clearly do not like nomad, why keep on slamming it on the forum?
One thing for sure is that there stuff might not be the best quality but at least its not fake like half the stuff you have probably used! You have had your say but now leave it..... Let people decide for themselves!
I can tell you now, I tried PGW testen and I will never use it again, it did nothing for me 1st of all and second of all I actually ended up throwing it away because the pain was so bad....

testodes wrote:

Lesa wrote:

Mr_SA wrote:

00pump wrote:

Hi..

Well not really sure as to why, but allot of people have said the same... maybe somebody has scientific reason as to why.....

hmmm, ive been feeling allot of pain from my new batch of PGW Test E.... I can't even sitdown at times, I have a feeling their is bacteria or something in this or something isn't clean, I doubt its the ammount of alchol used... I really feel something isn't right here..... and its nothing to do with the way I inject or anything to that effect..

I wont lie, i am also getting a LITTLE worried about PGW, as i am having the same issues with their products. Never had ANY discomforts with Nomad etc.

haha you must be joking why you even bringing up nomad its such rubish

Lesa , You clearly do not like nomad, why keep on slamming it on the forum?
One thing for sure is that there stuff might not be the best quality but at least its not fake like half the stuff you have probably used! You have had your say but now leave it..... Let people decide for themselves!
I can tell you now, I tried PGW testen and I will never use it again, it did nothing for me 1st of all and second of all I actually ended up throwing it away because the pain was so bad....

Yo dude, Nomad works, orals at one stage where a bit mild.... but other than that ok...

PGW works like a bomb... I had some issues with it and their policy was to check product and do a swop out.... People have beeen drawing the product out and replacing it with some or other oil, (forgot) the name.... So just to clear things up their product does work 100%, at one stage I know somebody did complain about pain and was alchol related and a sensativity with their skin...

PGW is probabbly the best gear I have got in South Africa.... But I do agree we all have our preference and shouldn't bash another name without proof (eg: tests being done on the product to prove dosage, etc) I wrote a long article about this before....

testodes wrote:

Lesa wrote:

Mr_SA wrote:

00pump wrote:

Hi..

Well not really sure as to why, but allot of people have said the same... maybe somebody has scientific reason as to why.....

hmmm, ive been feeling allot of pain from my new batch of PGW Test E.... I can't even sitdown at times, I have a feeling their is bacteria or something in this or something isn't clean, I doubt its the ammount of alchol used... I really feel something isn't right here..... and its nothing to do with the way I inject or anything to that effect..

I wont lie, i am also getting a LITTLE worried about PGW, as i am having the same issues with their products. Never had ANY discomforts with Nomad etc.

haha you must be joking why you even bringing up nomad its such rubish

Lesa , You clearly do not like nomad, why keep on slamming it on the forum?
One thing for sure is that there stuff might not be the best quality but at least its not fake like half the stuff you have probably used! You have had your say but now leave it..... Let people decide for themselves!
I can tell you now, I tried PGW testen and I will never use it again, it did nothing for me 1st of all and second of all I actually ended up throwing it away because the pain was so bad....

As long as these are free forums i will keep telling anyone that posts comments and questions about nomad my experiences and what i think about it with it. The fact that you need to tell me to shut up is already proof enough because if Nomad was a good company we wouldnt be even arguing here now would we?

Who really cares anyways, Its not like the whole of S.A's juicing community reads, I can tell you know that Nomad still sells the most... In JHB that is.... which really constitutes for most of the country anyways... its not like your opinion or mine actually matters... think about that....

testodes wrote:

Who really cares anyways, Its not like the whole of S.A's juicing community reads, I can tell you know that Nomad still sells the most... In JHB that is.... which really constitutes for most of the country anyways... its not like your opinion or mine actually matters... think about that....

O but it does matter trust me the more ppl read negative feedback that comes from unsatisfied Nomad customers, the more they will think twice about buying Nomad. Also every unsatisfied customer will tell another customer or a potential customer and more and more ppl will know not to take chances with Nomad...think about that....

LOL...

Guys chill out

testodes wrote:

Who really cares anyways, Its not like the whole of S.A's juicing community reads, I can tell you know that Nomad still sells the most... In JHB that is.... which really constitutes for most of the country anyways... its not like your opinion or mine actually matters... think about that....

I agree, each brand has followers and non-followers.
All we want is honest feedback, positive or negative.

The best brand will have positive and negative feedback, that is life. If a brand only has positive feedback I will be concerned as this is impossible, not due to quality, but there are so many variables when it comes to getting results and some guys just expect miracles and will inevitably blame the gear if that miracle does not happen.

Let's keep the opinions above board, if you don't like a brand then offer your opinion/experience and move on.

It's like flogging a dead horse now!

flogging a dead horse.. lol...

Netro/Admin check it out

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum?func=vi...it=25&start=25#23794

My e-mail is now showing the replies in https with no trusted cent, not a issue just wonder why its going to https now and http?

Your e-mail or browser?
Just added some security, nothing to worry about.

Hey i have put 2ml in each delt,1 ml test prop and 1 ml test e with no pain.I have done 1ml test prop in each bicep lol i love the pgw prop..

Netro security maybe, but if you don't have a signed cert then everyime I go to the page via a link on a reply to a thread it will cause prompt me to have to select and save the cert.

but anyway, as I said nothing to worry about if that is the way you guys want to do it...

ogre wrote:

Hey i have put 2ml in each delt,1 ml test prop and 1 ml test e with no pain.I have done 1ml test prop in each bicep lol i love the pgw prop..

Jayzuz!!! I put half a ml of testen in my shoulder and it feels like death the next day :laugh:

Ogre: ha ha thats mental dude!! you must be on some other pain killers!! agreed PGW rocks but their prop is PROP!!
I shoot in the quad and glute, the day or two after is death no matter what, Cant even imagine Delts or Bi's??
What Needle do you use??
Peace