Stay on cycle or stop because of gyms closing.

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23 Mar 2020 13:08 #221647 by Jacques777
Hi guys, need some input regarding whether I should stay on cycle, I’ve only been on test E 600mg(injected 300mg twice already) for 8 days. Superdroll 20mg/day for 8 days.
Should I stop my cycle now and continue in a few weeks if all of this possible lockdown issues are over, will my natural test recover fine after only 8 days on?

What’s my best option? I don’t have any home gym equipment.

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23 Mar 2020 13:32 #221648 by Jacktuary
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Oef jys op n natte chom.
Mmh . Your natural T will definitely be supressed. Recover ? Not sure ... lose all gains u made in 8 days. Yes ...

Do you have PCT on hand ?
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23 Mar 2020 13:49 #221652 by Jacques777
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Yeah I do, don’t really want to use the pct after an 8 day cycle

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23 Mar 2020 13:52 #221653 by Jacktuary
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Oupa we need help !!

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23 Mar 2020 13:53 #221654 by Hoosain
I stand to be corrected... but I don’t think a week of test and tbol would have shut you down. Wait for one of the more experienced guys here but I’m almost sure they’ll advise you to just stop with everything and not worry about a pct.

From my understanding it takes a few weeks before your body stops producing test naturally. I think At this stage your body is still “alert” towards the extra test and will produce test when the need arises.
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23 Mar 2020 14:10 #221657 by Jacques777
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Okay thank you Hoosain, and vlad.
Will also wait for one of the experienced guys to give an input.

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23 Mar 2020 16:29 #221658 by Jacktuary
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Wild theory right. Just took a nap after my workout and I thought what i would do. Well maybe get a cruise dose like 100mg a week of test cyp. Then if the gyms open then bump it up again ? Your pct would need to be stronger then tho... Anyone have criticism on this ?

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23 Mar 2020 17:51 - 23 Mar 2020 17:55 #221659 by Oupa
Thx Hoosain, agreed. It wont do much harm. The orals is definitely in your system starting to fck around, but 8 days... you'll be fine. Keep diet nice and healthy, and limit alcohol. If you have HCG, it wont hurt giving yourself a shot or 2.

Depends.... we could always work something out, but drop the orals & half your test dose.

Whats your stats?
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23 Mar 2020 18:08 #221661 by Jacques777
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192cm
98kg
23 yr

Planet fitness body measurement says I’m 7%BF, I’d say I’m more around 12%

I do have hcg on hand, but if I mix it now, I lose the rest?

I also have aromasin, clomid, nolva onhand.

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23 Mar 2020 18:16 #221662 by Oupa

Jacques777 wrote: 192cm
98kg
23 yr

Planet fitness body measurement says I’m 7%BF, I’d say I’m more around 12%

I do have hcg on hand, but if I mix it now, I lose the rest?

I also have aromasin, clomid, nolva onhand.


Het jy planne vir kinders binne die volgende 3 - 5jaar?

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23 Mar 2020 18:25 #221663 by Jacques777
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Definitief nie.
Maar ek wil eendag kinders hê.

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23 Mar 2020 18:31 - 23 Mar 2020 18:33 #221664 by Muscleaddict
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It will be probably 8-10 weeks before your testosterone recovers back to where it was pre cycle, if you are otherwise healthy with no low T issues.

Just those 2 shots will drop your your LH and FSH by at least 80% to under 1iu/L and keep it there for 2 to 3 weeks before it slowly goes up again.

Nolva alone would be fine. Start 3 weeks after your last shot.
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23 Mar 2020 20:37 #221666 by Jacques777
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Thanks Muscleaddict, if I stop it now, and continue it again after the lockdown?
Is that okay?

What’s my best option, considering I want to continue the cycle once the lockdown has passed?

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24 Mar 2020 08:39 #221668 by Oupa
Staying on test dose that will keep you anabolic until this shits over. 300mg per week.
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24 Mar 2020 11:02 - 24 Mar 2020 11:03 #221670 by Muscleaddict
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Personally, I'll be on 1ml PGW Supertest 320 per week.
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09 Oct 2020 18:38 #223711 by MikeM

Muscleaddict wrote: It will be probably 8-10 weeks before your testosterone recovers back to where it was pre cycle, if you are otherwise healthy with no low T issues.

Just those 2 shots will drop your your LH and FSH by at least 80% to under 1iu/L and keep it there for 2 to 3 weeks before it slowly goes up again.

Nolva alone would be fine. Start 3 weeks after your last shot.


Hate to resurrect an old post, how quickly do LH and FSH drop once exogenous test is introduced? My Dr pulled bloods a week after 250mg cyp, and both are a slightly out of range. Not sure if it's cause for concern or not ????

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11 Oct 2020 06:44 #223721 by 00pump

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Muscleaddict wrote: It will be probably 8-10 weeks before your testosterone recovers back to where it was pre cycle, if you are otherwise healthy with no low T issues.

Just those 2 shots will drop your your LH and FSH by at least 80% to under 1iu/L and keep it there for 2 to 3 weeks before it slowly goes up again.

Nolva alone would be fine. Start 3 weeks after your last shot.


Hate to resurrect an old post, how quickly do LH and FSH drop once exogenous test is introduced? My Dr pulled bloods a week after 250mg cyp, and both are a slightly out of range. Not sure if it's cause for concern or not ????


Its impossible to give an accurate answer to that. Age also plays a factor. The only way you would have known is testing before starting your first pin. However that shouldn't be a worry and those levels mean nothing while ok a cycle.

What was a little out of range? Exact readings if you have them.

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11 Oct 2020 09:17 #223724 by MikeM

00pump wrote: Its impossible to give an accurate answer to that. Age also plays a factor. The only way you would have known is testing before starting your first pin. However that shouldn't be a worry and those levels mean nothing while ok a cycle.

What was a little out of range? Exact readings if you have them.


Thanks @Pump00 - I'm 30, no cycles, mid 20s bf, but went to the doc about chronic fatigue and concentration issues. Here are the results of my first test.

Total test: 7.1nmol/L (12+)
Free test: 176pmol/L (180-739)
SHBG: 19.90nmol/L (11.1-78.1)
Vitamin D 25: 18ng/mL (20+)
S-Ferritin: 417ng/mL (20-00)
TSH: 1.79ulU/mL (0.35-4.94)

A week later doc pulled these, which had me questioning if it's primary or secondary hypogonadism.

Estradiol: 105pmol/L (40-161)
FSH: 0.62U/L (1-12)
Lutropin (LH): 0.5U/L (0.6-12.7)

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11 Oct 2020 09:55 #223725 by 00pump
To soon to have seen the rise in testosterone, but clearly shows your test levels are very low. Who decided on the 250mg test cyp? Was this self medicated or via the Dr?

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11 Oct 2020 10:21 #223728 by MikeM

00pump wrote: To soon to have seen the rise in testosterone, but clearly shows your test levels are very low. Who decided on the 250mg test cyp? Was this self medicated or via the Dr?


Administered by my Dr. When I saw the low FSH I got a little concerned that I may have had pituitary issues. As it turns out, I got the results back the same day I told my Dr that I wouldn't be returning for my following test jab, which came in at R715 a shot.

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11 Oct 2020 12:57 #223733 by 00pump

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00pump wrote: To soon to have seen the rise in testosterone, but clearly shows your test levels are very low. Who decided on the 250mg test cyp? Was this self medicated or via the Dr?


Administered by my Dr. When I saw the low FSH I got a little concerned that I may have had pituitary issues. As it turns out, I got the results back the same day I told my Dr that I wouldn't be returning for my following test jab, which came in at R715 a shot.


Something isn't right, but I'm more alarmed that this wasn't tested and an emphasis put onto identifying and trying to restore natural testosterone production. You need to get to the bottom of why you have no testosterone. Was DHEA tested?

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11 Oct 2020 13:29 #223734 by MikeM

00pump wrote: Something isn't right, but I'm more alarmed that this wasn't tested and an emphasis put onto identifying and trying to restore natural testosterone production. You need to get to the bottom of why you have no testosterone. Was DHEA tested?


My Dr had planned to give me 3 weeks of test cyp, then leave me for 3 weeks and check levels again. That seemed pretty counter intuitive to me.

DHEA was not tested - I am still in the window to request more tests, would it be worth adding anything else to get checked?

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11 Oct 2020 13:46 #223735 by 00pump
You Dr sounds like he is in drugs. Injecting testosterone is only going to make identifying what is wrong with you that much harder. Of course after 3 weeks it will be higher, but he is treating symptoms not the cause. DHEA is good to know as it helps release other hormones, but your case seems very unique for your age and no history of using steroids. I personally don't believe this Dr is treating you right but then again I'm not a Dr.

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11 Oct 2020 13:49 #223737 by MikeM

00pump wrote: You Dr sounds like he is in drugs. Injecting testosterone is only going to make identifying what is wrong with you that much harder. Of course after 3 weeks it will be higher, but he is treating symptoms not the cause. DHEA is good to know as it helps release other hormones, but your case seems very unique for your age and no history of using steroids. I personally don't believe this Dr is treating you right but then again I'm not a Dr.


Yea, I chatted to my home doctor and he said that 200mg cyp once a month was all I needed. I'd much prefer to get to the bottom of this, but I have a feeling while things are way better now, they're going to get even worse before they can get better.

At least my libido hasn't been impacted ????????‍♂️

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11 Oct 2020 16:50 #223739 by 00pump
You can't do an injection once a month, it needs to be weekly, but 200mg is pretty high to start at.

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