4th Cycle - Advice Needed

Hi Guys.. I Need advice for a 4th Cycle please.Main Objective is to Gain weight. I’m 1.96, 85Kg (Skinny 85kg)Here’s my previous Cycle about 18 months ago. I gained weight but lost most of it as I had a newborn and gym was sort of in the background.16 Weeks
250 cyp(1ml upa cyp 250) Per week250mg deca( 0.75ml deca 330 from upa) Per week6 Weeks after last injection - PCT3Week 17 - Week 22
40mg Anavar per day during the 6 weeksCalories (Changes as weight changes)
Workout day - 3200
Non workout day – 2700Training & Nutrition is on point. Not sure if more info is needed?

Whats your training program looking like?
Give a breakdown of the week,
example monday - chest
tuesday back etc etc

You mention your calories, whats the macro breakdown? how much protein vs carbs etc.
maybe post some meals?

Do you do cardio?
What type of weights are you pushing?

First things first, if you are trying to gain a relative amount of good mass, your training day calories and off day calories should be the same.

If you have 3 off days just looking at this, you are down 1500kcal for the week.

You are currently eating on training days 37kcal per kg, and 31kcal per kg on off days. You really need to up those calories to about 40-42 kcal per kg per day. So 3400-3550.

Then gear. I will find a post of something similar someone asked the other day.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/anaboli...deca-masteron#229469

You could use the same course as described in this post

Thanks Obelix – EmpireAt the moment I’m on a 4 day plan (3 Mesos), but will probably go back to days.Day 1Upper BodyIncline PushChest Isolation or TricepsHorizontal PushHorizontal BackVertical BackSide Delts Day 2Lower BodyQuadsQuadsHamstrings IsolationCalvesTricepsFront Delts Day 3 Upper BodyVertical BackVertical BackHorizontal BackRear Delts or Side DeltsHorizontal PushIncline Push Day 4Lower BodyGlutesHamstrings Hip HingeQuadsBicepsTrapsCalvesRegarding my Calories, I use the RP Diet app to track/supply the calories (Amount of Protein, Carbs, fat)

Thanks for the above Cycle Empire. Would PCT 2 be fine or PCT 3?

well they clearly arent taking into consideration your fast metabolism, and your use of anabolics, stick to their training but i would seriously up your calorie intake to be honest, especially when throwing in anabolics.

pct 3 would be best, but remember 4x the half life for clearance to start pct,

in the interim before starting your pct, you can use clen and injectable carnitine, and if your budget allows it, GH at 2iu 5 days on /2 days off. so you can stay anabolic and hold on to your gains, i would also suggest running a small dose of insulin here, but that isn't for the uneducated at all.

you can still be anabolic with the above compounds and whilst you are allowing the androgens to leave your system.

Hi Empire

Would I be correct in saying that I should then start PCT3 60 days after the last injection?

Hi @Empire

I need some advice for a 5th Cycle please.

I've done the below Cycle about a year ago and saw reasonable result. I went from 83kg to about 89kg. I guess about 3-4 kg of muscle.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/anaboli...deca-masteron#229469

My problem/issue is just that after doing my PCT it just seems like I lose literally all of my gains. I keep going with my training (5 days per week) and I keep my calories around the 3400 - 3500 range. It then feels like I'm losing muscle and just gaining fat. I dial down my Calories to maintenance but after a few months I end up with the same weight I started at. Am I doing something wrong?

I'm Currently 81kg, 1,96m (39 years old)
Gym 6 days per week - 
Mon- Chest, Triceps,Shoulders
Tues - Legs, Glutes, Hamstrings
Wed - Back, Biceps
Thur - Shoulders, Triceps, Chest
Fri - Legs, Hamstrings,
Sat - Biceps, Back, Chest

My current Calories (Maintenance) per day based on 81kg Weight
165g Protein
75g fat
330 Carbs

What would you advise and what do you think I'm doing wrong that I keep losing all the muscle after my PCT? Hard words welcome.

Thanks

Infinity wrote:

Hi @Empire

I need some advice for a 5th Cycle please.

I've done the below Cycle about a year ago and saw reasonable result. I went from 83kg to about 89kg. I guess about 3-4 kg of muscle.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/anaboli...deca-masteron#229469

My problem/issue is just that after doing my PCT it just seems like I lose literally all of my gains. I keep going with my training (5 days per week) and I keep my calories around the 3400 - 3500 range. It then feels like I'm losing muscle and just gaining fat. I dial down my Calories to maintenance but after a few months I end up with the same weight I started at. Am I doing something wrong?

I'm Currently 81kg, 1,96m (39 years old)
Gym 6 days per week - 
Mon- Chest, Triceps,Shoulders
Tues - Legs, Glutes, Hamstrings
Wed - Back, Biceps
Thur - Shoulders, Triceps, Chest
Fri - Legs, Hamstrings,
Sat - Biceps, Back, Chest

My current Calories (Maintenance) per day based on 81kg Weight
165g Protein
75g fat
330 Carbs

What would you advise and what do you think I'm doing wrong that I keep losing all the muscle after my PCT? Hard words welcome.

Thanks

You want to maintain your calories and training almost close to when you on cycle.

Thanks SamZ400

I'll definitely do it this time around.

Do you think it would be fine to run the below Cycle again?

so week, 1-3
250mg test
150mg deca
100mg masteron
week 4-6
250mg test
225mg deca
150mg masteron
week 7-8
250mg test
300mg deca
150mg masteron
week 9-16
250mg test
360mg deca
200mg masteron

Would prefer you to swap your masteron and deca dosing around running masteron higher than deca

Please do no not train 6 days a week, ideally 4 no more than 5 especially if you aren't giving your body extra calories to grow.