My 6 week winter cycle - Tbol / Winstrol

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01 Oct 2009 09:23 #24324 by acidkidsa
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Thanks 00pump

Really stressing here. Dont know whats happening. Maybe a 5 week cycle of Prop and Tbol will help followed by a longer PCT.

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01 Oct 2009 11:19 #24340 by Inja
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Milktuds wrote:

Get blood-work done


Might be a good idea. I agree that you could probaly jump back on cycle and get that mass back, but it would be a good idea to find out where your hormone levels are at (test prolactin, the works). This way you will know if you previous PCT was the problem and fix it accordingly in future cycles. You don't want this happening again!

On the aside I'm sure your clean diet is fine but are those 300g protein part of I'd say at least around 3000 cal?

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01 Oct 2009 11:32 #24343 by acidkidsa
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Inja wrote:

Milktuds wrote:

Get blood-work done


Might be a good idea. I agree that you could probaly jump back on cycle and get that mass back, but it would be a good idea to find out where your hormone levels are at (test prolactin, the works). This way you will know if you previous PCT was the problem and fix it accordingly in future cycles. You don't want this happening again!

On the aside I'm sure your clean diet is fine but are those 300g protein part of I'd say at least around 3000 cal?


Cal is at 3500.

I am thinking of adding pasta in 1 times a day atm.

Just a thought.. To increase the Cal a bit

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01 Oct 2009 12:20 #24350 by Inja
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Alright that seems fine,
Fook bro I would start to worry about endocrine system with that kind of loss. I do think it is a better option to get the bloods before jumping back on the bandwagon, I'm all for finding the route of the problem.
If you do jump on cycle again I would go for a little longer than 5 weeks though, make it a full lean mass cycle. I know you don't use test, so this is hard.

How old are you again bro?

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01 Oct 2009 12:26 #24352 by acidkidsa
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I am 28,

I am thinking of just hitting some Prop and Tbol.

I will give test a go again.

I will weigh myself again tonight and see what it says.

But from 86 down to 80 -81 is shocking. I was use clen after PCT as well

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01 Oct 2009 12:41 #24358 by Inja
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Yep that's some serious mass, especially for 28,
Jumping on cycle will fix the problem but I think its still good to get the bloods and find out what the problem was!

Then hit an 8 weeker if your planning the prop. Get you back up over 86, and plan a PCT with two weeks of HCG and kessar, and a further 4-6 weeks kessar.

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01 Oct 2009 12:47 #24361 by acidkidsa
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Going to have to do that.

Somethings not right. I thought it was BF loss that cause it. But not 6kg.

I was 16%bf around 9 now.

Sucks to be me atm.

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01 Oct 2009 12:50 #24362 by Inja
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86kg, 16%fat --> 13.76kgfat
80kg, 09%fat --> 7.2kgfat

Net fat loss 6.56kg fat...

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01 Oct 2009 12:56 #24366 by acidkidsa
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Inja wrote:

86kg, 16%fat --> 13.76kgfat
80kg, 09%fat --> 7.2kgfat

Net fat loss 6.56kg fat...



Errrrrrrrrrrm fook it.

So that actually looks about right.....

I reckon I need to get a proper cycle together to get back to
86kg with 9%...

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01 Oct 2009 12:58 #24367 by milktuds
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16 % before your cycle or when you were at 86kg?

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01 Oct 2009 13:02 #24369 by Inja
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acidkidsa wrote:

Inja wrote:

86kg, 16%fat --> 13.76kgfat
80kg, 09%fat --> 7.2kgfat

Net fat loss 6.56kg fat...



Errrrrrrrrrrm fook it.

So that actually looks about right.....

I reckon I need to get a proper cycle together to get back to
86kg with 9%...


That being said although smaller you should be noticably leaner.
:) I hope it's all cleared up now cause gotta log off.

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01 Oct 2009 13:09 #24370 by acidkidsa
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I think I lost size in the cutting process as well.. So I need up my game then.

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01 Oct 2009 13:10 #24371 by Barbell
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@ acid...what height are you at if you dont mind me asking?

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01 Oct 2009 13:12 #24373 by acidkidsa
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I am 190cm ( Last reading on my passport)

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01 Oct 2009 13:28 #24376 by Barbell
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cool beans...the reason I ask is that I`m 178 and my weight is 88 at approx. 15% bf at the moment...hoping to get it down to approx 10%...which will bring me down to 84 odd..If I lose muscle mass I might end up closer to 80 as well...

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