Letro gyno removal (log)

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04 Dec 2009 08:36 #30546 by 00pump
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hahahah, something like a filling for your tooth?

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04 Dec 2009 08:42 #30548 by jackrabbit1
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I havent done it so i cant say. Only guess, but yes. I would imagine that. Your brain wont understand it at first. How is all this happening without the pain - weird.

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04 Dec 2009 08:43 #30550 by jackrabbit1
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You can always let me do it! I like that sort of stuff.
And i've watched plenty Dr90210!

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04 Dec 2009 09:27 #30554 by Sting
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You guys are scaring me :dighole

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04 Dec 2009 10:43 #30561 by Ronnie
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jack if your going to do the surgery, get someone to record it, maybe you can get a late night show, think about it....
Tonight on Etv, Dr Rabbit removing a "P-Nose"..
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Leave your ego @ the door.

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17 Dec 2009 10:03 #31288 by 00pump
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Right! Sorry for being so quite, been busy beyond belief.....

Got great news... gyno must be around 90% gone, i'm so happy with the results that I am not even looking at surgery anyone. DJ you the man, I really feel that 'gift' really helped....

Gyno revesal (2.5mg Letro + 4mg bromo pd for 1 week dropped down to 2.5 mg) So looks like I am in the clear, in the next 2 days I will drop the letro to half dose for 3 days and half dose again and start my kessar to prevent the rebound, 4 days after that I wil come completely off it and just continue the Nolva for another 15 days.

This is the most important part not to have rebound so let me make sure I do this properly. I will also continue with the Parlodel for the whole time i'm on the kessar, as far as I have read you do not get a 'rebound' effect from Parlodel.

Anyone have any comments or suggestions?

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17 Dec 2009 10:22 #31295 by BB_guy
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Good job man.

No info to add really, just a Q.
Did the sides from Parlodel get less over time?

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17 Dec 2009 10:27 #31298 by Empire
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*shines nails on shirt* :D

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17 Dec 2009 10:29 #31299 by BB_guy
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Also, if you could give the total time spent on letro and time spent on parlodel.
Aseblief. :)

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17 Dec 2009 15:16 #31348 by ts_On_Steroids
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Hi,

Please give an overall view of dosages, etc.

Is Bromo readily available?

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17 Dec 2009 15:55 #31349 by BB_guy
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Bromo isnt over-the-counter,if thats what you asking.A person would need a script. Not sure if that answers your Q ?
As far as on the black-market, shouldnt be a problem getting your hands on some.

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17 Dec 2009 16:04 #31350 by ts_On_Steroids
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Hi,

What is the pharmacuetical name, as I can get it from my pharmacy. I have used the proper Letro with little effect

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17 Dec 2009 16:11 #31351 by BB_guy
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Bromocriptine I think is a generic.Parlodel is a brand name. I THINK.

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17 Dec 2009 18:28 #31372 by Yohimbe
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Great news Pump.
But is strange-this means it was gyno induced from progesterone, and you weren't even running nor test when you got the gyno.

Have to rethink this whole gyno thing-everything has always said that if you control the estrogen, progesterone won't be a problem as estrogen acts as the antagonist.
And you said that the letro did nothing to your progesterone levels when you got it tested.

Did you have high progesterone or prolactin levels when you got it tested originally while you were on the letro?

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17 Dec 2009 22:01 #31391 by Inja
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It has nothing to do with progesterone (well about as much to do with progesterone as to do with testosterone). If the bromo- letro- combo helps then that implicates estrogen and prolactin. Where do you see the progesterone?


Well done Mr. Pumper. I really hope the reduction sticks post therapy! Fingers crossed...

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17 Dec 2009 23:10 #31399 by Yohimbe
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Inja wrote:

It has nothing to do with progesterone (well about as much to do with progesterone as to do with testosterone). If the bromo- letro- combo helps then that implicates estrogen and prolactin. Where do you see the progesterone?


Well done Mr. Pumper. I really hope the reduction sticks post therapy! Fingers crossed...


High levels of progesterone cause gyno-nor tests such as tren are progestins (synthetic progesterone) and have a high binding affinity for the progesterone receptor. This is implicated in gyno.

www.bodybuildingweb.net/blog/progesterone-gyno/

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17 Dec 2009 23:23 #31401 by Inja
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What I'm asking is what led you to believe his gyno was caused by progesterone when he treated it successfully with drugs that lower estrogen and prolactin? I don't see the link to your diagnosing progesterone as the problem...

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17 Dec 2009 23:47 #31404 by Yohimbe
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Inja wrote:

What I'm asking is what led you to believe his gyno was caused by progesterone when he treated it successfully with drugs that lower estrogen and prolactin? I don't see the link to your diagnosing progesterone as the problem...


I'm not saying it is progesterone, I would have thought that it wouldn't be progesterone related as he didn't use a nor test, nor prolactin related. I would have thought it was purely an estrogen problem as there were no progestins involved.
But since the bromo helped there must be a prolactin issue from an unknown source.

Progesterone is closely linked and a culprit of gyno/male breast development, I would like to know if these levels were tested as well.

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17 Dec 2009 23:56 #31407 by Inja
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Yohimbe wrote:

Great news Pump.
But is strange-this means it was gyno induced from progesterone, and you weren't even running nor test when you got the gyno.


See that comment up there :bounce that's the one I was on about bro.

Prolactin can be elevated by any number of things and has very little to do with progesterone or progestins. Simple horomone imbalances in the normal range can elevate prolactin. Commonly, the low testosterone post cycle creates just such and imbalance that traditionally raises prolactin.

Ya feel me? :)

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18 Dec 2009 06:48 #31412 by Yohimbe
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Inja wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

Great news Pump.
But is strange-this means it was gyno induced from progesterone, and you weren't even running nor test when you got the gyno.


See that comment up there :bounce that's the one I was on about bro.

Prolactin can be elevated by any number of things and has very little to do with progesterone or progestins. Simple horomone imbalances in the normal range can elevate prolactin. Commonly, the low testosterone post cycle creates just such and imbalance that traditionally raises prolactin.

Ya feel me? :)


Now I reread it, I see what you mean, my bad :blush:

I was always under the impression prolactin wasn't such a major contributor to gyno, more estrogen and progesterone, and prolactin was more to do with milk secretions.

Is it a good idea to rum bromo during pct regardless of the type of cycle?

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18 Dec 2009 20:30 #31473 by Inja
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Nah, I don't like throwing chemicals around all willy nilly in my body... Only use if you need to. My prolactin goes down fine on its own...

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05 Jan 2010 19:04 #32518 by Novice!
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Any news 00pump? did u manage to get rid of completely?

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