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BB_guy wrote:
silent4now wrote:
Will do that
What sort of organ support should I use during my cycle?
Milk thistle for d-bol correct?
Yebo, also keep water intake high, 3+ liters should be ok
Add in a Multi, Vit C, Vit E, calcium etc just for overall health
Ok, currently I use animalpak once a day, it already contains vit E, a little c, milk thistle etc etc
Should I be taking additional Vits and thistle?
milktuds wrote:And Cranberry Extract, Essentiale, Omega 3 and you're good to go.
Cranberry extract, where do I get it and whats the benefit
Essentiale...for what symptoms or daily?
Omega 3...getting it with animalpak
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Cycle
Week 1-4: D-bol @ 25mg pd
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate @ 600mg/week
Week 1-14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg eod
Week 7-12: HCG (Ovidrel) @ 250iu (2 times per week)
PCT
Week 13-14: HCG (Ovidrel) @ 1500iu per week (split in 3)
Week 15: Nolvadex @ 50mg pd
Week 16-18: Nolvadex @ 25mg pd
Support
Milk thistle @ 3 tabs pd
Cranberry extract @ 3 tabs pd
Animal pak @ 2 paks pd
Omega 3 tabs @ 9000mg pd
Any criticism welcome
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Looks good, but I think you can stick with the dbol at 50mg per day and keep the adex at 0.5mg EOD. Have you cycled before with dbol and test?
If so how was the water retention and estrogen that time around?
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Looks good, but I think you can stick with the dbol at 50mg per day and keep the adex at 0.5mg EOD. Have you cycled before with dbol and test?
If so how was the water retention and estrogen that time around?
Nope, never done anything before...like the title of my thread suggests
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i read up a lot about these things on the past few days, i decided to wait until later in my life to use gear and rather go natural now on a better healthier diet and learn to gym correctly with proper form first.
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50mg/d of dbol is a lot for a first timer, 20mg/d for the first week will do just fine or just stick on 30mg/d (1 with breakfast,1 with lunch and 1 with dinner- but one of them should be about an hour before u gym).
Seems like u have quite a lot of money to spend on this cycle so if i was you i would run deca (@300 to 450mg/w) with it just for some solid gains and to help ur joints cos they gonna be under a lot of pressure with the sudden increase in strength. It also has very little side effects with the most prolific one (deca dick) being sorted by taking test.
12 weeks is also quite a long time, u have the commitment to do it but why push it for that long for the first cycle, the longer u do it the more u damage ur lipid profile although it goes back to normal it is in my view the worst side effect of gear on the body, 10weeks should be fine max i say and it should give the enth and deca good time to show u excellent results!
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I understand what you mean but am i wrong in what i said concerning the dbol dose and usage and that deca will be a good thing to add as its very safe with nice results especially if he has the money. And where do you guys rate the effects on ur body among the sides of gear? So u have to use it before ur opinion counts? Well seeing that everyone reacts differently i dont see how ur PERSONAL experience counts anymore than all the other people's ive read up on. my 2cents
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I understand what you mean but am i wrong in what i said concerning the dbol dose and usage.20mg/d for the first week will do just fine or just stick on 30mg/d (1 with breakfast,1 with lunch and 1 with dinner- but one of them should be about an hour before u gym). actually no,u should essentially split your dbol up to 1 every 4-6 hours so thats the half life of the substance,so if there are 24 hours in a day u should devide that by 6 hours and take that many a day in my opinion anything over 40-50mg dbol is over kill hence the reason i suggest only 40mg-50mg a fday. and that deca will be a good thing to add as its very safe with nice results especially if he has the money.how do u know its safe? what happens if he suffers from progresterone based side effects and ends up with progesterone based gyno? do u know how to combat that?do u know that using kessar can actually spur this even more? And where do you guys rate the effects on ur body among the sides of gear?what the fuck are u asking here? So u have to use it before ur opinion counts?yes,u have no personal experience using any substance so how can u comment on them. Well seeing that everyone reacts differently i dont see how ur PERSONAL experience counts anymore than all the other people's ive read up on.everyone may react differntly but there are common side effects,some people may suffer from deca sides,some people dont,deca can be safe for some and very fucked up for others,u are 17 dude,i wouldnt ask u for any advice coming to gear. its like u telling me how to drive when u dont even know how to ride a bike properly. sit and listen and absorb and only look like an idiot instead of opening your mouth and proving u are an idiot. my 2cents
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i read up a lot about these things on the past few days, i decided to wait until later in my life to use gear and rather go natural now on a better healthier diet and learn to gym correctly with proper form first.
ok on the topic:
50mg/d of dbol is a lot for a first timer, 20mg/d for the first week will do just fine or just stick on 30mg/d (1 with breakfast,1 with lunch and 1 with dinner- but one of them should be about an hour before u gym).
Seems like u have quite a lot of money to spend on this cycle so if i was you i would run deca (@300 to 450mg/w) with it just for some solid gains and to help ur joints cos they gonna be under a lot of pressure with the sudden increase in strength. It also has very little side effects with the most prolific one (deca dick) being sorted by taking test.
12 weeks is also quite a long time, u have the commitment to do it but why push it for that long for the first cycle, the longer u do it the more u damage ur lipid profile although it goes back to normal it is in my view the worst side effect of gear on the body, 10weeks should be fine max i say and it should give the enth and deca good time to show u excellent results!
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