Got really bad flu while on cycle, what to do?

Whats up guys,
Thank you for taking the time to read through this.
I am currently on my first cycle and in the past 2 days i got bad flu symptons:
Sore/Tender Face, Head Ache, Back/Neck Stiff, Drowsy,

I have heard from a couple of people that my cycle is questionable, but i am going to finish is off and see what happens.
My cycle looks like this:

Week1: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week2: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week3: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week4: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week5: 3 x Winstrol a day - 1ml Tren end of week
Week6: 3 x Winstrol a day - 1ml Tren end of week
Week7: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week8: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week - 1x Fertomid 50 a day for 5 days (sick breakout)
Week9: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week10: 3x Dbol a day - 1ml Deca + 1ml Testcombo end of week
Week11: 3 x Winstrol a day - 1ml Tren end of week
Week12: 3 x Winstrol a day - 1ml Tren end of week

i am currently in week8.
Should i stop my cycle?
should i carry on?
Should i take meds?

thanx again for your input!

Hey Dude.

Really man, who ever advised you to do this for a first timer is a f**king cum stain. Sorry if they your bro and what not but eish man, you bombing your system with all those compounds!!!

What about your PCT?

Hey tbone,

yes this is my first cycle, havent included the pct here.
but i am planning to use pregnol and kessar afterwards

Dude if i was you i would contact admin or wait for one of the senior guys to break it down, structure a correct PCT procedure and cut the cycle short. Its your body man, you dnt want to f**k it up!

People are right to question your cycle dude... the structure is completely out. You are running liver toxic orals throughout your cycle? Bye bye liver, your test is too low and you are running it too short? you are going straight from deca which has no place in a first cycle straight to tren which is the Ferrari of steroids.... You are looking at doing serious damage to yourself. And even if this cycle was correctly structured which its NOT, that pct would not be enough..

Cut the orals now as in YESTERDAY. And i dont know what can be salvaged from this cycle or if you should just stop and run PCT which is my opinion..... Someone will be along now to give more in depth advise.

EDIT- i cant stress more the potential damage you are looking at if you are adamant to stay on it. Please take whatever advice is given to you on this thread and fucking kick whoever gave you this cycle in the nuts. And can you give your stats?

Hi Chapel,

Thank you for your advise.

i thought it sounded a bit rough for a first cycle!

my stats:
16% BF
1.75m
85kgs (was 71 before cycle)

would you recommend i just start pct straight away?
if so what pct would you go for?

Stop the dbol immediately carry on with the test and deca but what dosage is the deca presuming 300mg since u taking nomad.

Carry on with the cycle till 12 weeks of 1ml deca and 1ml test combo. U might as well finish it. After the 12th week ur pct will look like this.

2 weeks after last jab

week 14 >Clomid 5days 100mg per day
week 14 >17 HCG 500iu every other day, Start HCG on the last day of clomid
week 16 >19 Tamoxifen 20mg everyday for 30 days.

*shakes head*

also snok1986, u are wrong about pct start time,when using deca u looking at 45days after your last shot before you can start your pct! 3x the longest half lide,might be able to get away with 2x longest half life because of the dose used,but its close on 30days before you start your pct!
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...p-and-pct-start-time

Agree with DJ there, should rather run deca till week 12, the test combo till week 14 and then start pct during week 18

deadgoat that is also dependant on the longest ester in the test combo..... u would stop them at the same time and wait between 30-45 days, before starting pct...

Yissus Fitmodel, that is the most hectic first cycle I have ever seen.

Anyway, I would drop all the orals and the Tren, double the Test dose (up to 600mg pw) and run the Decca and Test only until the end of week 12. Then wait 28 days and start your PCT. DJ can check my calculations?
Also check out Doctari's PCT on this website, you are going to need a serious one imo.

If you need to take the meds for flu, you must do it. Personally though, I don't believe in flu meds, they do very little for flu, but anyway you and your doctor will know best.

fitmodel wrote: Hi Chapel,

Thank you for your advise.

i thought it sounded a bit rough for a first cycle!
my stats:
16% BF
1.75m
85kgs (was 71 before cycle)

would you recommend i just start pct straight away?
if so what pct would you go for?

the cycle is not just rough, its stupid. if you thought it wasnt 100% why did you do it anyway and not make sure??? i REALLY hope its just flu and that you're not dying already cos that cycle can screw you up BIG time! luckily you're using nomad... :lol:

i think you should stop everything immediately and do a PROPER pct then wait 12 weeks, DO RESEARCH and start a proper cycle. but im sure that you wont stop so do as shaunrsa said: drop the orals, double the test and continue till week12, wait 4/5 weeks (in which time you can run test prop if you want to) and then start the pct snok posted (with the adjusted time frame as dj said)

good luck man, you'll need it!

Ps: PLEASE do proper research before coming near gear again!

Ha ha I also thought thank God it's Nomad so the damage won't be that bad. For a second I thought the oke who suggested this cycle was waiting to get collect his life insurance!

I don't want Fitmodel to feel even more kak than he must be right now. He can still salvage something of this cycle if he gets his hands on some decent Test (I recommend PGW) and then does a proper PCT.

Lots of good advice coming through, PLEASE take it and learn first from the Guru's.

hi
to answer your question bout the flu...its no biggy it happens while you ON relax

thanks to everyone for their advise.
i took loads of bcomplex, vitamin c and some pain killers - i am feeling better today.

fitmodel wrote: thanks to everyone for their advise.
i took loads of bcomplex, vitamin c and some pain killers - i am feeling better today.

Good. Now what are you doing about that insane cycle of yours?

Hey Fitmodel

You were probably suffering from test flu which is basically the body's reponse with flu-like symptoms from a sudden increase in hormone levels namely testosterone.

Here is some more detailed info on test flu:

A natural defense mechanism - to the sudden increase in exogenous hormone levels. Its the body's way of trying to "flush" out the foreign entity it perceives is there (just as it does w/ a flu virus). There has also been some connection between high BA content and immune response. think the combination of sudden increased hormone levels and a foreign substance being injected into the muscle can cause these symptoms. Some people are sensitive, some arent. Certain people don’t experience it at all and some might just get mild chills (low grade fever) or a runny nose for a few days and not even take much note of it.

etiocholanolone represents only about 20% of the metabolites of testosterone in people. Maybe folks who experience this reaction to testosteone have particularly high levels of 17 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, the enzyme that converts testosterone into etiocholanolone. Or an isoform of the enzyme that makes the conversion more efficient.

Etiocholanolone is believed to produce fever and flu-like aches and pains because it induces the systemic release of Interleukin-1, a powerful proinflammatory cytokine.

when i read posts like this it just makes me grateful it took me four years to make up my mind to use gear and more grateful for finding this forum and the bros advice here before my first cycle which was test only

DJ wrote: also snok1986, u are wrong about pct start time,when using deca u looking at 45days after your last shot before you can start your pct! 3x the longest half lide,might be able to get away with 2x longest half life because of the dose used,but its close on 30days before you start your pct!
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...p-and-pct-start-time

Ahhh Touche!

Hey Guys, thankx for all the help, 100% better now was over very quickly.
i am going to post a new topic about the pct for this disaster of a first cycle.

i would be grateful for any help you guys could offer.

Hi there guys,

I have updated my cycle with the info you have provided me with.
please look at the cycle and share your thoughts on it.

you will see i added in some winstrol tabs that i will use with eca for the next 2 weeks as i have a big event on 16 april that i need to look good for.

regarding pct should i rather not scrap one of them and replace with pregnyl?

Thanks again for all the support here - you guys are awesome.

CHANGED to cycle here:

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...s-guided-cycle#64857