LETS GET SERIOUS

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HIEGHT 1.75m
WEIGHT 88KG
BMI 28.7KG/M2
BF% 13.5

BRIDGING LAST COURSE WITH THIS ON @ 350MG S TEST AND 15000IU PREGNOLL @500IU ED AND READT TO HIT IT HARD AGAIN.

DIETING WITH DJ

(week 01 to 10 split mon and thurs) 900 mg T ENAN, 700 mg EQUI, 300 mg MASSTRON
(week 08 to 13 eod) 160 mg tren ace
(week 11 to 13 eod) 400 gm test prop
(week 08 to 13 ed) 60 mg anavar
(week 07 to 19 ed) 40 mg proviron
(week 14 ed) 100 mg clomid
(week 15 to 17 eod) 500 iu pregnyl
(week 16 to 19 ed) 20 mg nolvadex

QUESTIONS

1)where and for how long do i front load with d bol?
2)which d bol is the best, otp or oc ( i have had great results from oc before)?
3)which avnavar is the best to use otp or oc?
4)i need to be at my best on my 30 th b day which is on the 15 th, it falls on week 15 this cycle. would that be when i am looking at my best?

thank you for your inpput

Howzit machine

Please just check you test prop & tren ace dosage:
(week 08 to 13 eod) 80 mg tren ace
(week 11 to 13 eod) 100 mg test prop
Just keep in mind that the general rule of thumb is to keep your tren (or any 19-nor) a bit lower than your test dosage to help prevent your HPTA being shut down. Your dosage with the 80:100 ratio is perfect.

Answers to your questions:
1)Run 40mg ED for the first 4 weeks of your cycle
2)best d-bol: LP, the others will do fine, go with oc
3)best anavar:LP, the others will do fine, go with oc
4)Varies from person to person, for me I usually lose a lot of water around 1st&2nd week PCT and probably look my best, so yes, week 15 is your best bet.

nice bud never seen you around here , howzit

Been on quite a bit lately but I was off for a while.

Just looking at your cycle and I would also increase the Equi to the full 13weeks. Equi must always be run as long as possible as maximum gains are usually seen around week 10.
Also, maybe move the Masteron to the end of the cycle & make sure it's Masteron Prop not Masteron Enan. Masteron prop is great for sculpting and hardening newly formed muscle, so it will be most beneficial at the end of cycle when muscle volume is high and body fat is low.
Proviron must also not be run during PCT. It does have anti-estrogenic properties but it is still a steroid and can cause possible HPTA shutdown. I would run it from start to finish (week 1-13) if you can, as together with it's anti-E properties it also frees up circulating testosterone and will compliment the test in your cycle.

Bud u don't run proviron through your pct! Also I would wait a week after your last shot befor starting pct.

Look I have used oc labs orals,I have only use otp clebuterol,I know snok is using otp orals and loving them,I like the otp clen,if u are willing to give it a basH and see the results then go for it but if u aren't then oclabs is definantly a fail safe option,that being said if there clen tabs are anything to go by u are good to go..
Bud looking good by a certain date is all relevant to the effort u put in with the dieting training and cardio!

OTP is up there with the rest imo. But ppl are just scared to try new things but this one won't dissapoint but if u do go with OC Labs u will have great results too.

Also try and up the Mast to 450mg u won't be dissapointed.

40mg tren ace eod will be fine for a first run.

(week 01 to 10 split mon and thurs) 900 mg T ENAN, 450 mg MASSTRON
(week 01 to 13 split mon and thurs) 700 mg equi
(week 01 to 13 eod) 10 drops letro
(week 08 to 13 eod) ??? mg mass prop
(week 11 to 13 eod) 400 gm test prop
(week 08 to 13 ed) 60 mg anavar
(week 01 to 13 ed) 40 mg proviron
(week 15 ed) 100 mg clomid
(week 16 to 18 eod) 500 iu pregnyl
(week 17 to 20 ed) 20 mg nolvadex

changed so far

1) upped mass to 450 mg p/week
2) what do i dose the mass prop at ???, i switched from ten ace to mass prop cause staying far away from nor-19 s' cause i am prone to gynoo
3) running proviron from week 1 to 13
4) running letro from week 1 to 13 2 10 drops eod, is this eright to avoid any gyno issues???
5) running euip through til week 13

fakey and stuf i dont like tren cause i cant even have a decent shag without loosing my breath, lmfao

1)Why not run Masteron Prop from the start - 100mg EOD week 1 - 13
or you could run Masteron Enan 450mg/wk 1 - 8, then change to Masteron Prop 100mg wk 9 - 13
(PGW also makes a Masteron blend of Mast prop and Mast Enan, maybe think about doing that rather from start to finish).
2)Masteron Prop - 100mg EOD
3)Good
4)letro's is best for gyno
5)good

Also, just curious... you said you are bridging with 350mg Supertest and 500iu pregnyl ED.
First of all I would never bridge with Supertest. You have to let your body recover after your last PCT. Supertest contains a mix of short/long ester test and will inhibit your natural test production for a long time. That's a sure way to end up on Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life - be careful.
If you really have to bridge then go with a DHT compound like Winstrol or Anavar, but it is really better to stay off everything between cycles.

pregnyl @ 500iu/day - that is way way too much even if you are running test (500iu/week is a more reasonable dosage). There is usually no need for pregnyl during a bridge as a proper PCT should enable natural test production to return to normal.

STUARTF wrote: First of all I would never bridge with Supertest. You have to let your body recover after your last PCT. Supertest contains a mix of short/long ester test and will inhibit your natural test production for a long time. That's a sure way to end up on Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life - be careful.

WELL SAID!!!

@stuf- is the purpose of a bridge not to cut out the pct and jump straight to the next cyle?

i finished a 15 week tren ,eqip s test cycle and then bridges with 350 mg s test for 4 weeks an actually then took 5000iu preg in week one then 500 iu ed for 12 days then 4000iu and now i want to start next cycle so my last pct was ages agoat the end of my last cycle, now what???

1) so which will be best the mass blen from start to finish or the massprop@ 100mg will it cost about the same on either of your three sugestions?
2) 10 drops eod is fine on the letro til week thirteen?

3) what is a DHT compound?
4) how does a HTPA shutdown occur and what is it ? or ow do u know it happens?

No, whoever told you to bridge with test should be shot. ALL cycles need to have a PCT to allow the body's hormones to return to normal, most importantly being to trigger natural testosterone production. If you don't incorporate a PCT and bridge with test, your body will "forget" how to produce natural testosterone and will start to rely on the external test that it is getting, in your case the Supertest. You have in effect been on a long long cycle and your body will need some time to recover.

I would recommend that you only start your next cycle after a minimum of 6 weeks. You really need to give your body time to operate naturally for a while. Typically the "off periods" should equal the last cycle length...eg. 15 week cycle - 15 weeks off until next cycle.

Also, those pregnyl doses are ridiculously high. Usually after a test cycle you would use about 1500iu/week for PCT.
Did you start the pregnyl after the Supertest or have you been running them together? At least you have been running pregnyl and at those massive quantities you should have boosted some natural test production.

Answers to Questions:
1)I would run Mast prop 100mg EOD for whole cycle length. PGW masteron blend (100mg Mast Enan, 50mg Mast Prop) is 150mg/ml and a bit more expensive.
2)10 drops letro EOD is fine
3)DHT is a derivative of testosterone (dioxy-hydro-testosterone). DHT compounds generally exhibit very little aromatization into estrogen and also have little effect on the HPTA. DHT compounds include: Winstrol, Anavar, Proviron, Masteron, Primobolin
4)HPTA stands for hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. It is a combination of endocrine glands that control the development and regulation of the body's reproductive and immune system. Changes in hormone levels will effect the functioning of the HPTA, and in our case, the increased levels of testosterone in the body can cause it to shut down the natural testosterone production in the glands in the gonads by inhibiting the release of LH (luteinizing hormone).

in week 4 now and i just dont feel my work outs are what they used to be , i just dont have the energy anymore, i dont know wtf is up with me, ao a hectic diet thuogh , what pre w out can ij take tha t will not hamper my gains an give me a mean work out?

what can i up in my cyle to get some better results, i am in week 4 and stil on 88 kg though a lot of bfat is gone , and i got to up my training intensity

If u wait for a reply to my emails u will see that I am going to increase your calorie intake this week,coming down in body fat is not exactly a bad thing cos u can't flex fat!

bro the only reason i trust you is because your reputation preceeds you, got your mail ,thanks,I AM FUNGRY!!!!

and ican see it working but just been real tired latley? what do you think it is, also been training an my ace latley

machine wrote: 3) what is a DHT compound?
4) how does a HTPA shutdown occur and what is it ? or ow do u know it happens?

Bro, i dont mean to sound like an ass but you've been and currently are using heavy compounds in your cycles yet you ask a question such as this?

Did you do any independant research before running your cycles?

#justcurious

Peace...

yes rowan idid, i checked where i could get the best prices and the best quality

and thats why this forum is here, right, rather educate me and help with advice cause hey now i know what a dht comp. is

and htpa shutdown

and
and
and...

i learn as i go along

steroids saed my life bud thats about what it comes down to

i only been on the gear for about 18 mnts hey

STUARTF wrote: No, whoever told you to bridge with test should be shot. ALL cycles need to have a PCT to allow the body's hormones to return to normal, most importantly being to trigger natural testosterone production. If you don't incorporate a PCT and bridge with test, your body will "forget" how to produce natural testosterone and will start to rely on the external test that it is getting, in your case the Supertest. ....

If you "Bridge" it should be on TRT doses/protocol - 100 - 120mg/week. You should use HCG at 250 iu the 2 days before your weekly shot.

TRT - teste replacment therpy , right, have you been on that before ?

how long bidge and hcg contuinuously while on the bridge?

sruartf , dj, i knowits a bit far ahead but what to add to cycle at the end to be rock hard a cut by the 15th dec and when to start?

Masteron prop, proviron & winstrol always work for me

winnytabs or the ijectable