first cycle anavar; proviron , suggestions?

Because I was afraid I would go catabolic, ran it from the start of a test only (enanthant) frontloaded with dbol cycle. Was 12 weeks ran it till when my pct was basically done. Gained around 10kg lost 2kg (I attribute the weightloss to water)

you wont go catabolic if your nutrition is in place...

Hmmmn.. Don't think I agree. I like being on something till I start pct. Normally its winny. I don't bother when its a short ester like prop but when pinning supertest or enanthant for example a bridge like winni or proviron is leke... I worked hard for the gains I don't want to lose a g.

jakes wrote: Hmmmn.. Don't think I agree. I like being on something till I start pct. Normally its winny. I don't bother when its a short ester like prop but when pinning supertest or enanthant for example a bridge like winni or proviron is leke... I worked hard for the gains I don't want to lose a g.

yes but we were not discussing "bridging" we were discussing running proviron trough your pct.

and at 4g protein per kg there is not much reason for your body to go catabolic anyway...
bridging is strictly also not neccesary as there is still loads of exogenous hormone floating around in your system.

Even if it isn't needed then I still do it. Lol, won't affect me badly (mabye cost a little more) but no harm. Bud with all that protein your kidneys will take strain... (I think, theorectially, they should)

I can't understand why some proven "good advise" not to run proviron during pct just doesn't sink in with some people. Why not just run a "physiological dose" of 250mg test during pct, I'm sure you won't lose any gains and after pct you can carry on with that dose till the next cycle. Seriously dude!

Oh ya and the 4g protein/kg will definately have much worse effects on your kidneys compared to the proviron you planning to do during pct.....I promise :lol:

STUARTF wrote: I can't understand why some proven "good advise" not to run proviron during pct just doesn't sink in with some people. Why not just run a "physiological dose" of 250mg test during pct, I'm sure you won't lose any gains and after pct you can carry on with that dose till the next cycle. Seriously dude!

Oh ya and the 4g protein/kg will definately have much worse effects on your kidneys compared to the proviron you planning to do during pct.....I promise :lol:

Seriously not funny, that is a completely different thread. 250mg test = around 210mg actual test, normal male body produces between 50 and 70mg weekly. This has no relevance to this thread, proviron, can render your pct useless, did nothing to mine at 25mg. Advice I got forum the form, articles section. We both have a lot to learn, so ya. That's why we are here. If you want a good laugh go to the video store and buy a fkn comedy. There is a time and place for everything, I do not appreciate your attitude or shitty response. Act like an adult

CHAPEL; you are right bro we always train 5-10kgs heavier than their competing weight , this happens in all weight clas... the idea is be the biggest guy in your weight class , thats why we do it .

Certain a lot of weight is lost the day prior the fight , we use things like laxis ( diuretic ) and sauna to get it in . so i only have to loss like 6kg max on body mass .

YOU ALL ARE RIGHT NO DOUBT ! we loss a lot of strenght in the way , i think that anavar can help keeping a little bit of that strenght . do you?

SERIOUSLY ! THANKS ALL FOR THE HELP ! you r great comunity !

heavymma wrote: CHAPEL; you are right bro we always train 5-10kgs heavier than their competing weight , this happens in all weight clas... the idea is be the biggest guy in your weight class , thats why we do it .

Certain a lot of weight is lost the day prior the fight , we use things like laxis ( diuretic ) and sauna to get it in . so i only have to loss like 6kg max on body mass .

YOU ALL ARE RIGHT NO DOUBT ! we loss a lot of strenght in the way , i think that anavar can help keeping a little bit of that strenght . do you?

SERIOUSLY ! THANKS ALL FOR THE HELP ! you r great comunity !

Do they ever test you guys or is it regarded as "too expensive" and limited to pro fights?

jakes wrote:

STUARTF wrote: I can't understand why some proven "good advise" not to run proviron during pct just doesn't sink in with some people. Why not just run a "physiological dose" of 250mg test during pct, I'm sure you won't lose any gains and after pct you can carry on with that dose till the next cycle. Seriously dude!

Oh ya and the 4g protein/kg will definately have much worse effects on your kidneys compared to the proviron you planning to do during pct.....I promise :lol:

Seriously not funny, that is a completely different thread. 250mg test = around 210mg actual test, normal male body produces between 50 and 70mg weekly. This has no relevance to this thread, proviron, can render your pct useless, did nothing to mine at 25mg. Advice I got forum the form, articles section. We both have a lot to learn, so ya. That's why we are here. If you want a good laugh go to the video store and buy a fkn comedy. There is a time and place for everything, I do not appreciate your attitude or shitty response. Act like an adult

I'll be very interested to see this advise/articles you got. We all have things to learn but I have been doing this a very long time and I can assure you I know how to run proviron correctly. Its just irritating for me when myself and a lot of other members on this thread (like chapel, thunderbeast who invest a lot of time giving advise and helping people here) and the advise is just ignored. I do however apologise for my comments on my last post...it was un-called for, sorry man didn't mean to offend you.

Lol its okay. Should have taken it better. I can understand your frustration. As for the proviron, I read it on the drug profile section on the forum.